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Ozdozer thanks.. apologies for reposting your link.the numbers I was talking about eg 10RB , 15RB, 22RB, just wondering what they mean or just model numbers.. .?.
 
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I think model numbers are taken from BE. The 22RB is probably a 22B BE that was extremely popular. I can't remember the number but there were thousands of 22B's built. I'd guess it's the most popular BE model of all time. I found some info that said it was built from 1937 and with series II and series III updates till 1976. 8828 were built but I don't know if that included RB made machines or other partners like Komatsu Bucyrus.
 
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Close but a different turret. I can't remember if one was bigger than the other or more comfortable. I think I read the Lancaster didn't have the best escape hatch or access to the rear turret but considering my dad had a sore elbow for a year because his was jammed, I'd guess they were both crappy. I mentioned it before that the Halifax had an advantage for the tail gunner. It had an electric turret and the Lancaster had a hyd. turret. The gunner in a Lancaster had to keep moving the turret to prevent the hyd. oil from freezing. The tail gunners wore electrically heated suits that plugged into the planes electrical system. This was decades before Milwaukee and other brands came out with heated clothing.
 
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Welder Dave said:
Close but a different turret. I can't remember if one was bigger than the other or more comfortable. I think I read the Lancaster didn't have the best escape hatch or access to the rear turret but considering my dad had a sore elbow for a year because his was jammed, I'd guess they were both crappy. I mentioned it before that the Halifax had an advantage for the tail gunner. It had an electric turret and the Lancaster had a hyd. turret. The gunner in a Lancaster had to keep moving the turret to prevent the hyd. oil from freezing. The tail gunners wore electrically heated suits that plugged into the planes electrical system. This was decades before Milwaukee and other brands came out with heated clothing.
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I sent it mainly for the view..can only try and imagine looking back and seeing all those aircraft behind you, though mostly at night from what you’ve said..
 
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Yes the view would be similar. My dad said it's a little hairy sitting in the turret looking backwards on take off.
 
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At least in a WW II bomber it's a gradual climb. Imagine if there was jet with a tail turret. As soon as you're off the ground your at 45 deg's. or more! Landing you just hope the tail wheel is there and not blown off or damaged. I think I read somewhere about a plane with a damaged tail wheel but the pilot was aware of it. He made sure to keep the plane level and off the tail wheel as long as possible and may have even made a grass landing. There's been so much stuff I've read over the years it's hard to remember it all. This thread is bringing a lot of it back though.
 
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Welder Dave said:
At least in a WW II bomber it's a gradual climb. Imagine if there was jet with a tail turret. As soon as you're off the ground your at 45 deg's. or more! Landing you just hope the tail wheel is there and not blown off or damaged. I think I read somewhere about a plane with a damaged tail wheel but the pilot was aware of it. He made sure to keep the plane level and off the tail wheel as long as possible and may have even made a grass landing. There's been so much stuff I've read over the years it's hard to remember it all. This thread is bringing a lot of it back though.
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That’s good to hear..
 
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This only just crosses the earthmoving/aircraft boundaries..this was 1980, in Belize, Central America (not trying to be insulting but hardly anybody I have spoken to in 40 years has heard of it.)..I just remembered it was used as the location for a 1970s movie.. I'm fairly sure it was 'The Dogs of War"..
I was grading a track next to the runway..in an Aveling Barford grader, the model before this.. Nige will know the one..
The aircraft below taxied out, then I noticed it had a propeller not turning.. my first reaction for a moment was 'I wonder if the pilot knows', then I thought of course he does, & there are hardly any maintenance facilities, and no doubt a dozen other reasons.. so off it went crabbing into the air..
box b 044-502 tan airways cargo taking off with 3 engines.JPG
There was only one RAF VC10 flight a week, the camp was next to the base and everything stopped to watch the landing.. next to where I was standing is the very basic radar station, the RAF guys from there would score the landing each week, holding up a massive board with 'CRAP' written on it.. I suppose on the other side it may have said GOOD??
box b 046-509 YC10 touchdown.JPG

box b 047-510 YC10 & crap card.JPG
 
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and this crosses the boundary because the parrot is perched on an Allis Chalmers 645 steering wheel.F624.JPGF632.JPG
After I left the guy on the right got seriously knifed.. without going into details, this was a very poor country. It wasn't unusual for a couple of kids to come up to you and say 'give us some money or you'll get knifed'.. that's the Aveling Barford grader & a D6D..
 
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thanks for the pictures. Somehow I don't think 3 engines is on the MEL for that plane. I have a story about a ferry flight but I'll post it in the other thread.
 
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Ian coombs said:
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This only just crosses the earthmoving/aircraft boundaries..this was 1980, in Belize, Central America (not trying to be insulting but hardly anybody I have spoken to in 40 years has heard of it.)..I just remembered it was used as the location for a 1970s movie.. I'm fairly sure it was 'The Dogs of War"..
I was grading a track next to the runway..in an Aveling Barford grader, the model before this.. Nige will know the one..
The aircraft below taxied out, then I noticed it had a propeller not turning.. my first reaction for a moment was 'I wonder if the pilot knows', then I thought of course he does, & there are hardly any maintenance facilities, and no doubt a dozen other reasons.. so off it went crabbing into the air..
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There was only one RAF VC10 flight a week, the camp was next to the base and everything stopped to watch the landing.. next to where I was standing is the very basic radar station, the RAF guys from there would score the landing each week, holding up a massive board with 'CRAP' written on it.. I suppose on the other side it may have said GOOD??
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The blue color is almost like on Air Force One.
 
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