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Deutz 912 injection drip timing degrees

towbar

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Got the pump, the timing is DONE, Just going over all the mistakes I made in this single thread thinking about how to edit them out (my first time). I'm working on putting a video together to up it on U-tube when finished. It ended up being a much more difficult and attention/patience demanding task than I would ever have figured, you really need MANY practice runs to get it right.

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By backlighting the drip-tube end I managed to catch the forming drop with camera. In retrospect I should have cut 3 inches off the drip-tube to minimize residual vertical fuel in it.

Anyone have an explicit reference for the advance being 31 degrees? How can this be so large when the Cummins 12-valve for instance uses 11 (or as little as 5 in firepumps)?
 

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Deutz #1 is flywheel end. For once it ain't Deutz who have it all ack bassward. We call left/right as seen from the back, so it follows that numbereing should also be from the back :)
 

towbar

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Got the pump, the timing is DONE, Just going over all the mistakes I made in this single thread thinking about how to edit them out (my first time). I'm working on putting a video together to up it on U-tube when finished. It ended up being a much more difficult and attention/patience demanding task than I would ever have figured, you really need MANY practice runs to get it right.

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By backlighting the drip-tube end I managed to catch the forming drop with camera. In retrospect I should have cut 3 inches off the drip-tube to minimize residual vertical fuel in it.

Anyone have an explicit reference for the advance being 31 degrees? How can this be so large when the Cummins 12-valve for instance uses 11 (or as little as 5 in firepumps)?
https://youtu.be/vN-b6CDBP5E
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Nice video. I did the same process on a 47 year old Komatsu D155 Engine. It was set to 38 Degrees before TDC and ran well. It took a few tries to get it right. I have the same Wilbar timing wheel as on the video.
Simon C
 

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Nice video. I did the same process on a 47 year old Komatsu D155 Engine. It was set to 38 Degrees before TDC and ran well. It took a few tries to get it right. I have the same Wilbar timing wheel as on the video.
Simon C
Thanks. There are a couple of discrepencies between diesels that are over my pay-grade.

1
Using an almost identical pump, the timing on a Cummins 12-valve instead of 31 degrees is 11 degrees (5 only if it's a firepump engine).

2
The same Cummins has a compression psi over 400 instead of 240 with almost the same compression ratio (I could be wrong here, maybe the Cummins has a higher ratio).

For those in need of degrees I'll save the trouble. Here's the one I stole off the net as-was, and what I turned it into. The HARD part was getting it printed to arrive at the 9-1/2 inches of diameter on this engine!

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