Thanks guys for all the feedback. I have been looking at the Southstart, Satco, and Waratah. The Oregon Logging Conference (aka-Loggers Holiday) is coming up soon and I will have an opportunity to talk with the salesman. We are not a high production outfit by any means, but the ability to fall, shovel log, and load sure is attractive. We have a Timberjack 608 with a processor head to work up the small stuff, but would still have to buck and limb wood over 24" in diameter. Appreciate all the knowledge and help this forum provides.