Oh no. Another IH TD thread. TD-14A

[BC Placer gold]

Or maybe even canola oil?

I thought of that as we bought several 30' lengths of heavy duty (cam-lock Goodyear 4") petroleum hoses that came out of the port of Vancouver. They were used to pump canola oil into tankers.

I had to raise them up in the air with the 210 and let them drain out on the ground on a hot summer day. I wondered what to say if our mines inspector showed up....this is an edible vegetable oil---look here I will drink some as proof lol!

That being said if you are just plowing snow occasionally you likely won't even have an issue. It seems the track chains bind up the worst when the snow is right around the freezing point.

Looks like you are making good progress on the machine!

 

[Willie B]

Or maybe even canola oil?

I thought of that as we bought several 30' lengths of heavy duty (cam-lock Goodyear 4") petroleum hoses that came out of the port of Vancouver. They were used to pump canola oil into tankers.

I had to raise them up in the air with the 210 and let them drain out on the ground on a hot summer day. I wondered what to say if our mines inspector showed up....this is an edible vegetable oil---look here I will drink some as proof lol!

That being said if you are just plowing snow occasionally you likely won't even have an issue. It seems the track chains bind up the worst when the snow is right around the freezing point.

Looks like you are making good progress on the machine!

Like in a diesel engine snow contains heat. Compress 1 cubic foot of snow into 1 cubic inch, 1728 cubic inches into 1, ever so briefly, it gets warm. It starts to liquify, then refreezes. I haven't tried oil, it seems promising.

 

[chidog]

Remember in snow dozer tracks only have traction going forward and reverse, and will slide sideways down a hill. They should have the ice lugs or grousers to prevent that.

 

[Willie B]

Remember in snow dozer tracks only have traction going forward and reverse, and will slide sideways down a hill. They should have the ice lugs or grousers to prevent that.

Loggers working steep land use "corks" (caulks). Short pieces of grouser stock are cut 1/4 the width of a track shoe. Two are welded increasing the height of the grouser at each end of one shoe 1/2 " from the end. Next shoe gets one in center of the grouser. Cures the skating on side hills. I remember one big logging company buying 10 dozers in one purchase. They were delivered directly to the woods without being caulked. The drivers talked about rolling them over frequently: "Either way, you need new pants! Either battery acid, or **** on them. You don't roll a crawler down the side of a mountain without one or the other."
In the late1940s my uncle was killed this way.

 

[BC Placer gold]

Remember in snow dozer tracks only have traction going forward and reverse, and will slide sideways down a hill. They should have the ice lugs or grousers to prevent that.

That's for sure...they will take off fast. Most equipment up here is (as Willie B says above) corked.

 

[MrMarty51]

Radiator is yanked.

That loader stalls on a 500 pound lift. I had to push upwards on the boom for the radiator to clear the dozer blade.
Heated the tank to get the pressure regulator valve bolt to let loose.

Hooked the pressure regulator to my air compressor, adjusted the pressure to five PSI. Held the outlet tube over a bucket that has some oil innit. Increased the pressure to eight and no movement on the oil, then up to ten PSI and then there was movement on the oil surface. Guess it must be about a nine or ten PSI pressure relief valve.
Lots of green.

Called a radiator shop. Gave the core measurements, he said May 2025 they did one similar. $1500.00. I aint got the money.
This one was not leaking but it was not building pressure.
I’ll just run the evaporust into the lower tank, flush it clean and run this radiator until it wont run some more.
I’ll not seal the cap so it wont build pressure.
Is that advisable ,

 

[MrMarty51]

Did I mention, a farmer north of my town has two of these dozers, in pieces. He said they are all there, I’ve heard that before.
One is a TD-14A and the other is a 14B.
I asked whats the difference, he said the B has a six cylinder engine.
A week from this Friday, the son and I going to take a look at them. Son said if they are worthy he would make the purchase.
I need parts.
If there is a better radiator that would be worth more than the price of both those machines.
Mine is going to need a hydraulic pump input shaft at some point in time.


The PTO shaft is hollow except right at the harmonic balancer.

There is a grease zerk next to the HB, one complete and one busted off.
The only grease in that tube was the half dozen shots it got from me before I initially fired it up.
Before going back together, the hollow of that shaft will get packed full and then greased on a very regukar basis in hopes the splines dont fail.
Maybe one of those up north dozers might have pump and pump shaft adapter in better condition.

 

[MrMarty51]

Rechecked the relief valve.
Pops off at about 8 PSI. Found the specs in the book. It says should pop at 7 PSI.
That will work.
The radiator cap affair.


Tighten the bolt to keep the cap tight. Loose the bolt and the clamp will slide through its slots then the cap disk can come off.
There were no gaskets or sealers in the adaptor nor on the cap disk so it was not holding pressure. I’ll keep it that way to keep from loosing a bunch if coolant, for niw, until I can afford a new core.
There was dirt packed into and between the radiator fins and tubes.
I was blowing those out with the blow gun.
A lot of dust, had a kind if a weird smell. Pretty soon I was coughing, like a dummy, not wearing a respirator mask, I do have some good ones, had to take a couple of decongestants to get the cough to subside.
Not doing that again.
Thats all for today.

 

[MrMarty51]

Some liquid petroleum spillage under the dozer. Fresh new crushed rock on the driveway.
Got under there, yesterday, with the business end of the shop vac and sucked up the gravel, rocks, sand and dirt that had spillage applied to it.
Into the garage with that. I have a kitchen type sieve that I use to classify gravel from sand for gold panning in the Yellowstone river.
Classified the dirt and sand from the gravel.
Gravel dumped into one bucket, dirt and sand into another.
Not sure what to do with the dirt and sand, yet.
The rock and gravel going to get warshed with water and detergent, then rinsed.
I then can put the rock/gravel back down and the city sewer division said that no more petroleum that will be in that water to just run it down the toilet.

Five gallon bucket of evaporust will be here tomorrow, then I can finish up the radiator and get that set back in place, but, might wait and see what condition the radiator is in thats on one of those two parts dozers. Save the best for this unit.

 

[MrMarty51]

To remove the fan belt.
A set screw in the pulley outer sheave, removed that screw the give the threads a good shot of deep creep penetrant.


Against those tab looking affairs with a drift punch and a 3 pound hammer, pulley sheave spun easily.
Got it backed all the way off and the fan belt easily removed.
Had to remove the fan bkades in order to get the generator belt off.
Both belts are mighty dry, cracked and most likely are going to fail afore too much longer.
That shaft nut with the slits is for coolant pump packing.
If the pump develops a leak, tighten that nut a turn, maybe less. Too tight will burn and destroy the shaft.
There is also two grease zerks thats for keeping the bearings and the packing lubed.

 

[MrMarty51]

Five gallon bucket if evaporust cleaned that mess of the lower radiator tank.
This is a 1/4” double flare pipe adapted to my old blow gun.
Unscrew the rubber tip then this screws right on.
Bent it 90 to get some good agitation going through the radiator drain plug hole.


Filked the radiator then install a home made cap adapter, air chuck fitting onto that then the pressure regulator. Aired it to six PSI where the pressure relief valve was letting loose and no leaks, none watsoever.
Drained all that out and then refilled, agitated, agitated whilst draining, refilling and repeat.
Six refills to the top of the lower tank.
The last drain iff, agitation and this is what that produced.


Then it was dealing with broke bolts. Five in all. Got those all five removed and radiator is ready.

 

[MrMarty51]

Jacked up the dizer blade a good amount.

Extended the shop floor and the floor crane laigs and lift boom.


Up and over.

Got it pinned.

All the bolts are in and tight.
It was getting near to sunset so put the garage floor extensions back onto their storage area

And called it done for a day.

 

[MrMarty51]

Now to get it all hooked back together.


And this thing shrunken back down, folded up and put away.

I installed an extra set of casters under this floor crane.
Then sawed off the legs and fabricated a set of hinges for each side.
When the legs are down there is three 3/8ths bolts goes through each hinge plate and nutted so no bolts can slide out.
it folds up to a mighty compact size and fits snugly against a wall.
I’ll get some good pics of the hinges if anyone has such a hoist and wants to make theirs into a folder.

 

[MrMarty51]

The hinge points.

Cut legs.


Folded up.

Against the wall.

 

[MrMarty51]

Special note :
The extra casters to keep it from tipping nose down.

 

[HarleyHappy]

Is it just me or do you blow the picture up and look from corner to corner, to see if there is other interesting stuff, or how better you feel, because you may be neater and more organized.
Love the subtle message, sharpied on the wall, about the thermostat!

 

[MrMarty51]

Hydraulic control valve was a leaker.
It was a lot worse but started scraping and scrubbing before i thought to getta pic.

All apart.



Local machine shop had chevron seals that fit. They apparently are a little thicker as I could get in only one chevron instead of two.
The valve is slightly grooved so chucked it into the lathe and emory clothed it to remove any rough extrusions that might rip the chevrons or backers.



All back together.



Before the new chevron seals the valve shaft would nearly free spin. Now there is a fair amount of tension when trying to turn it.
If this new single chevron leaks then I’ll be shopping for a steel shell double lip seal of the proper dimensions and put one of those in there.
See how that works.

 

[MrMarty51]

Dozer is back together. And all the bokts in the sheet metal are all in place.
Bought a bunch of grade 8 bolts, lock warsher and warshers to hold it all together.
Several holes in the sheet metal needed a little die grinder work but now they are all in and tight.
First startup.

The a switchover to diesel.

 

[MrMarty51]

That home made oil cup for the air cleaner even held position and I give it two blocks of asphalt to test it out on. Mighty rough ride. :LOL
One thing, I forgot to tighten two track plates that are loose. I now have to make another trip with it onto some gravel to shake the mud off the plates.

 

[MrMarty51]

I have a chance to buy another TD-14 thats been partially dismantled.

He said that the engine still runs.
Something about the steer clutches or brakes not functioning is why its apart as it is.
One thing I noticed is the track chains still has new yellow paint on them. Must be near new.
Another thing is it has the rear PTO winch.


he said it was used for a pulling a slip scraper.
I seen this has what appears to be a heavy duty very sharp inverted V blade in it.


I asked whats that used for. He said when pulling a slip scraper they are cable operated. A roll of cable is packed along, when a cable breaks then the operator is prepared to cut new cable and replace it.

The other dozer is in a shed, he said it will take several days to get enough stuff moved to even get a look at it so no pics of that.
He said it is a still running track tractor.
It is a TD15 with a running six cylinder engine.
He wasnt aware of it having problems.
The blade from the TD-14 his grandpa was in the process of fabricating it to fit the TD-15 before he passed on.
I can get both machines for $1,000.00 and there is no negotiating the price.
I found a place that I can store them if My son says no on his place. I even found the financing as I dont have a dime to spare.
I told the financier to not expect to get paid back at all and if it does happen it wont be within the next two years.
And so thats whats happening over here.