Anti-Seize compound usage?

[rumblecloud]

I take it the use of anit-seize on a cylinder gland nut is verboten? Other than the pressures involved are there any other reasons? Any other areas where you shouldn't use it?

Thanks,
R

 

[BillG]

I don't know where that idea came from. I have used it many times especially on cylinders used in fertilizer, salt, sugar or any corrosive area. I also use it on cylinders where they are vertical and water can sit on top. Or live their life with light usage. Don't use it on your hands if you might scratch your nose (or other body parts).

 

[Vetech63]

I use it all the time on glands and bolt threads. The problem is that it is usually over applied just like silicon and makes a huge mess...........and you don't want that mess mixing with your oils.

 

[rumblecloud]

Well...alrighty then.
I wasn't sure and didn't wanna F anything up. I use it on everything on everything that's metal into metal bolts and screws, spark plugs, etc.
But I was not sure that with the higher pressures of a cylinder would cause the gland to back out.

I will use judiciously. Thank you. R

 

[Tyler d4c]

Thats about the same as it making lug nuts get loose and weld exhaust pipes together

 

[kshansen]

Well...alrighty then.
I wasn't sure and didn't wanna F anything up. I use it on everything on everything that's metal into metal bolts and screws, spark plugs, etc.
But I was not sure that with the higher pressures of a cylinder would cause the gland to back out.

I will use judiciously. Thank you. R

Just be very careful if using it on spark plugs to not get any on the porcelain parts or you will have spark going the wrong places!

 

[1693TA]

If you pull the wiper arms off your vehicle, brush some onto the driving stubs before you reinstall the arms. They'll come off easily in the future instead of the fight of usual.

Just did that today on a Mack semi tractor a buddy owns and recently started running.

 

[willie59]

Excluding internal parts such as inside engines, pumps, etc, my general rule of thumb is if it don't get Loctite it gets never seize.

 

[1693TA]

Don't let the scalehouse cops see Neversieze or the like on lug studs. For some reason they believe your lugs will come loose with it. Nevermind the revenue generator the citation is.....

 

[willie59]

To be clear, I don't use never seize on lug studs. If anything, if the studs are rusty and/or rough, just a very light dab of WD40 to assist dealing with thread friction mucking up proper nut torque. WD40 isn't super slickery and doesn't hang around for long, just there long enough to make a good torque up.

 

[Tyler d4c]

Don't let the scalehouse cops see Neversieze or the like on lug studs. For some reason they believe your lugs will come loose with it. Nevermind the revenue generator the citation is.....

Growing up dad always neversezed them up and beat them on with a impact.
I did the same till I started pulling wrenches in the real world. I now use a turque wrench but still lube them. Never a lick of problems either way.

Now the ford dealer that works on the pickups at my dad job lost 2 wheels off our trucks....

 

[chidog]

On spark plugs I have seen it act like loctite from drying out and heat.

 

[Delmer]

I thought antisieze was best for heat, and I'll usually use grease if it's not a spark plug or exhaust part. Or sometimes dissimilar metals.

 

[OzDozer]

Oddly enough, Toyota advise in every one of their owner manuals to never use lubricant of any kind on wheel studs/nuts.
Yet I've had a multitude of unlubricated wheel nuts gall the threads on the studs when unscrewing them.

High tensile threads "pick up" really easy when they're screwed up or unscrewed completely dry. I reckon gravel road dust makes it worse.

So, any time I install wheel nuts, the studs get a sniff of nickel anti-seize. Not a whole lot, just enough to ensure the threads don't gall next time. The oil ingredient in anti-seize dries out over time, anyway.

I have never, ever, had a wheel nut of any kind come off, in 58 years of driving and owning all types of wheeled vehicles. I'd estimate I've probably driven at least 3,000,000 kilometres. For many years, I did around 80,000kms a year.

But I have been in my fathers car as a youngster, when we lost a wheel, because the garage owner only did the wheel nuts up finger tight. and forgot to tighten them fully!

 

[chidog]

I thought antisieze was best for heat, and I'll usually use grease if it's not a spark plug or exhaust part. Or sometimes dissimilar metals.

It should say in the specs for it how much heat it will take. Normal everyday stuff not too much heat.

 

[Swetz]

I take it the use of anit-seize on a cylinder gland nut is verboten?

From the New Holland Manual:

Threaded Glands:
Apply six drops of Loctite® 262/271 Threadlocker
to the threads of the gland and tighten gland nut to
the specified torque using torque meter, 1, and peg
wrench, 2. Use a suitable vise or the attaching point
on the machine to hold the cylinder pivot point while
tightening the gland nut.

Although the above proceedure calls for threadlocker, I do not use it. I use neversieze on all the gland nuts on my machine. I have seen neversieze do amazing things to aid in the removal of a threaded object that has sat out in the weather over years.

The above stated, my machine is only on my property, and operated by me. A commercial machine with many operators, operators that will not give the machine a onceover prior to operation, is a different story. In this case, I would follow the manual, and hope I didnt have to open the cylinder up again, because, properly installed loctite works very well...operitive word is tite or tight!!

 

[Coaldust]

Aluminum, nickel or copper is the next question. What’s your favorite flavor?

 

[Tyler d4c]

Aluminum, nickel or copper is the next question. What’s your favorite flavor?

Loctite Copper is my personal go to but currently have a can of nickel I do like the metal free stuff for somethings like steel lines on th aluminum Condensers I doubt it matters tho

 

[Delmer]

Aluminum, nickel or copper is the next question. What’s your favorite flavor?

You're just the guy to agonize over that decision. Copper and nickel both cause galvanic corrosion, and aluminum will suffer galvanic corrosion (talking carbon steel here). So if it's corrosion I'm worried about, I use grease. Anti seize for heat or dissimilar metals.

 

[OzDozer]

I found copper anti-seize had inadequate resistance to corrosion, so I've used nickel anti-seize for over 50 years and never had any problems.

I've never tried aluminium anti-seize - anytime I get near aluminium of any kind, it seems it's always the source of major corrosion!