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SANY long term owners/operators

CM1995

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I've done RPO's on new and used. Depending on the deal it's a better deal to RPO a used machine instead of a new one in my experience. The new pieces of iron I've looked at going RPO carried a higher interest rate at purchase time than a straight purchase.

Like any iron purchase ya' gotta put a pencil to it.
 

DM&RDBulldog

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Deal we made is very simple, rental starts Nov 13th or 14th and come Jan 1st 2026 ill be either handing them a check for 380k or pay their rental rate and return both machines.

Each machine is $190k and if I can get 60 hours a week from them for 6 weeks they will be 3/4 of the way paid off before I even cut the check to buy them. That's even being generous because of the holidays. The potential to have them both bring in 190k each before I cut the check to buy them is very real.
 

Welder Dave

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Are any large name brand excavators made in the US? I though most if not all are based on Japanese designs and made there.
 

DM&RDBulldog

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Cat and Deere are the only manufacturers with a global headquarters in the U.S.A. Engineering, manufacturing, and assembly happens across the globe. Deere also just broke with Hitachi and don't have a clean sheet design yet, so their available excavators are still Hitachi.

Cat would be the brand if you wanted to support the most U.S. involved manufacturer as far as employees and taxes paid.
 

DM&RDBulldog

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Small update, SANY machines were delivered about mid day Friday and have been working since. Finished the day out Friday loading sand then switched them over to blasted ledge for Saturday and Today.

One of my crew has been on the same one since Friday for a total of 24 hours already. Feedback so far is the seat is a little thin but otherwise he's fine with the machine so far. The other machine has had a few operators with myself logging the most time between yesterday and today. I agree, the seat is thin after sitting in it for 10+ hours straight. Other than that these machines are quick and pretty smooth overall. Doing better on fuel than I expected, about 9 gallons per hour so far running wide open rowing the bucket through somewhat loose material. Have not had them into any kind of heavy breakout ground yet.

And for you CAT guys, I am now also the owner of two used 345B machines. Was tipped off about two very well maintained 345 up for sale and went to check them out. They are very well maintained for 16,000hrs and 19,000hrs. Grabbed them both for 100k as that was a great deal.
 

Shimmy1

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And for you CAT guys, I am now also the owner of two used 345B machines. Was tipped off about two very well maintained 345 up for sale and went to check them out. They are very well maintained for 16,000hrs and 19,000hrs. Grabbed them both for 100k as that was a great deal.

If it fit, I'd bet those old 345s would toss around the bucket off those Sanys just as well.
 

DM&RDBulldog

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If it fit, I'd bet those old 345s would toss around the bucket off those Sanys just as well.

Ill let you know. New buckets in the 4yd - 4.5yd range are on the list to buy today. 345s will be delivered tomorrow or Wednesday. The Sanys with 3.9yd buckets are easily outworking my 8,000hr Hitachi 550 with 4.4yd bucket.
 

DM&RDBulldog

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If it fit, I'd bet those old 345s would toss around the bucket off those Sanys just as well.

Took a little longer to get buckets but I ended up with 66" wide, 3.8yd, Esco buckets for the 345 Cats. Very nice machines and the previous owner spared no expense taking care of them. I put them both on the sand/gravel extraction and moved one Sany over to blasted ledge as its much quicker with cycle time and has considerably more bucket breakout.

Right now im 100% buying the Sany machines. The price is right and their performance matches. Only complaint from any of my crew as well as myself is the standard seat, so I discussed with dealer and they're ordering the optional thicker heated/cooled seat for both machines at no charge.
 

MG84

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Right now im 100% buying the Sany machines. The price is right and their performance matches.

I guess no one considers the moral or geopolitical aspect of purchases these days, especially high dollar durable goods. When we're all sitting in a Chinese concentration camp I guess you'll have plenty of time to think about it....
 

DM&RDBulldog

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I guess no one considers the moral or geopolitical aspect of purchases these days, especially high dollar durable goods. When we're all sitting in a Chinese concentration camp I guess you'll have plenty of time to think about it....

I wont turn down any machine someone else buys for me. You or anyone else has until Jan 5th 2026 to buy me the geopolitically correct brand machine and save western civilization.
 

HarleyHappy

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Sniff sniff, whine whine! Glad those awesome Sany machines are working for you. The heated cooled seats are spectacularly awesome to use, sitting in a machine for hours on end. The only issue I have had with those seats are the little holes for the air movement. Do not spill anything, even diarrhea, as it will magnify the smell.
Lol
 

DM&RDBulldog

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Sniff sniff, whine whine! Glad those awesome Sany machines are working for you. The heated cooled seats are spectacularly awesome to use, sitting in a machine for hours on end. The only issue I have had with those seats are the little holes for the air movement. Do not spill anything, even diarrhea, as it will magnify the smell.
Lol

The standard seat is heated, just a little thin on the base cushion. I was going to just have them reupholstered, but the dealer is willing to fit them with the optioned seat at no extra cost. After the initial chaos of setting the site up ill be pretty good at keeping the same guy in the same machine by majority so any mess they make they'll have to live with the smells.
 

DM&RDBulldog

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I am kind of surprised that, with the new tarrifs, these Sany machines are still available at a lower price. I would think the price would now be considerably higher on them. I understand and support, "Made in America". But, sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do.

According to my dealer they assemble a good majority of their lineup right in Georgia. Puts them on the same tariff playing field as the domestics that import parts to assemble here into a complete machine. Tags on the SY500 models ive got now say China though so probably not a model they assemble in Georgia.
 

smifwal

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The overhead of the major brands, I believe is the reason for the high price, my cat dealer looks like it is always expanding and I have no less that 30 different people from parts,sales, field service and so on that I may have to call to get something done, my sany dealership I have 3, parts, sales and service ( my cousin never did respond about the longevity of the bigger machines ,he quite frequently sees my texts, moves on and forgets to circle back).

My payment for my sany was about $100.00 more than the payment for the cat equivalent and I would have had a $30k buy out in April 2027 but with sany I am paid off in April 2026 and still have another year on my warranty, the sany was about $28k less than the cat. No need to pay more money just for the name unless there is some other value associated with that name. I get great customer service from both maybe better with cat but I also press them harder and treat them like the big company that they are expect more cause I paid more.
 

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While my last post was obviously a hyperbole, the fact is where we spend our money does matter. Every time you buy something you are voting with your pocket book, the larger the amount the bigger the vote. When you buy from Sany or other Chinese companies, your money is going back to China and indirectly the CCP. They like your money, but that is it. I personally don't want to further the agenda of a government that hates our freedom, our political system, our economic system and our way of life. I won't even get into their horrible working conditions, cyber terrorism, complete disregard for intellectual property, etc.

Part of the reason we are headed down this road in the first place is an ever growing number of consumers want everything cheap, they want it now, and they don't care about anyone else. Their bottom line is the only thing that matters, to hell with the everyone else, our country, our future. It seems like this is now the mentality of not only most individuals but also many businesses.

Obviously your mind is made up, but I hope others reading this thread in the future take at least a little time think about where their money is going and what it means in the big picture. One purchase may not seem like it makes a difference, but multiplied by many that have the same mindset, over many years, it certainly does.
 
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