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stinky64 said:
Have done that fancy maneuver with a roll off truck several times trying to pick overloaded 30 yard cans from job sites. Just because it says on the side of the can "do not fill past this line" doesn't mean you can fill them with dirt or concrete ya flargin' morons!
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The comment reminds me of a dumpster inside a Boeing building during the 757 ram-up. A laborer had filled the dumpster with concrete rubble, closed the doors and called for a haul out. Driver arrives grabs the dumpster and starts to pull it up onto his truck. Truck and dumpster fall over sideways crushing several work stations that the dumpster was landed next to. Driver had not bothered to see that the dumpster had the "right load of rubble," but it was only on one side. It was a Gawdawful mess. Laborer said; " I was careful to not over load it.... Nobody knew of any comment from the driver.
 
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I cannot picture picking up a rolloff without looking, unless you had experience with the site and crew. We loaded a crap-ton of them for our own driver at the Expedia job, but it was all construction materials stuffed in there tightly and would never have a 'side' to the load. I don't ever recall having to leave one down due to weight, as the dirt guys took care of all the concrete demo and such.
 
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skyking1 said:
I cannot picture picking up a rolloff without looking, unless you had experience with the site and crew. We loaded a crap-ton of them for our own driver at the Expedia job, but it was all construction materials stuffed in there tightly and would never have a 'side' to the load. I don't ever recall having to leave one down due to weight, as the dirt guys took care of all the concrete demo and such.
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Neither could anybody else in the building. the echo of the crash brought close to 500 instantaneous lookie -lous from all over the building. And that was before the cell phone, so no viral photos.
 
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A friend owned a large fab/steel supply business. I rember the dumpster "spear" they made for the local landfill. It would fit in a loader bucket and was used to loosen over-compacted dumpsters.....
Bet it had 200lbs of mig wire in all the layers of steel to build it.

Ed
 
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Guys in the actual Clay Pit I hauled from used a second loader with a set of hook on forks to spear the compacted into corners clay away from bucket walls then would swap the forks between loaders and reverse process. Saved time as at the smaller clay pit all we had were sharp shooters and straight blade scrapers looked as Unfolded garden hoes.
 
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Did roll-off for a couple of years, never had to be scraped out due to compaction, good shake of the can with the cable usually remedied that, What did suck was winter hauling, anytime temp got below freezing stuff froze to bottom of can. Yes special bucket on the excavator for "clean-out" at the transfer station and landfill.
 
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The dumpster we had at the shop had the sides bent out probably 4-5" from compacting it with the backhoe or excavator.
Usually wasn't heavy stuff though
 
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Acoals said:
When did they start enforcing weight laws?
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I'm guessing in the late '30s here in Washington. I have a book written by one of the first truck loggers out of Peshastin WA. He hauled out of Ingalls Creek down what is now US 97. He never mentions scales until just before the war. Then he complained inconvenient they were to making a profit.
 
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Trying to stretch life on crappy built roads, blaming over weight trucks. Trucks do weigh more than cars and will flat dig craters on soft ground but Lb per square inch on the old tires was about the same loading cars and trucks when either was loaded to any value. Speed and Pounding is what destroys pavement, shock loading across bad paving lays or expansion and contraction buckling.
US 40 had scales at both east and weat side of MO, had one close to center at Mineola Hill where the highway crossed the Loutre River bottoms. Main reason there was weight limit to the old bridges built 1920s.
 
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The industry---Roads were built to handle X amount of weight--industry has lobbied constantly
through the years to up axle weights, axles can be added but the concentrated weight remans,
only instead of a 52" spacing it's on 60" axle spread, yes more tires on the ground but as the
patch increases so does the weight for given area. Plus the trough created by weight in right
lane says it all. Allot of I-90 in Washington state is covered by troughs from extended weight
stretch chassis container headed to ports in Seattle & Tacoma, east bound lanes are never as
bad as west for wear. Which causes trucks to start running in left lanes, just a vicious cycle.
The DOT road boss here who I know was road boss at Bull Frog just west of Cle Elum for years.
According to him the studies of extended weights on roads bares it out, some areas worse
than others.
 
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HATCHEQUIP said:
Its to bad we dont utilize our rail system in this country, alot of freight could and should go by rail
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Very true--A high amount {don't know the percentage} is LTL--less than load. Out here it's
easy to spot, for example the number of trucks climbing mountain passes at much higher
speed than normal. I-84 {Cabbage-6 miles of 6%}, when I have a tow going to La Grande OR.
the tow with a tractor hanging on the back is roughly 50,000 lbs give or take. I climb the
grade at 45 to 48 7th/7th over without out crowding it. I have some corners I have to slow
down for. On the straights I will have trucks that gross 80,000 pass me, not by much but they
still go around. Which is telling--not really running anymore power than I have pulling a little
less weight, the tire contact area is small. Then there are the {Dragon Flies} drag up one side
fly down the other.
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So much of this LTL is created by I have to have it now-running low inventory cross dock
sales. To beat inventory taxes, which is understandable but the cost on the other end on
roads is a mess, not to mention all the added traffic, wasted space on trailer verses fuel burned.
Amount of tires, and amount of wrecks to top it off.
 
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A lot is due to poorly built roads. Maybe because of cost or time factors?? Like most things the base is the most important. If the base is scrimped on the asphalt won't save it. There is a stretch of secondary highway the gravel pit out by my property uses. Further North the road has a 75% road ban in the spring as do most non major highways. The gravel pit made a deal with the gov't. that they would supply all the base material and the gov't. would do the paving in order for the road not to have a spring road ban. It would seriously affect the gravel pit's business. They mostly haul with trucks and quad axle pups. Other than a few cracks in the pavement over the years, the road stays flat and is holding up great. I think if a little more was spent on the road base when fixing or building new roads it would be money well spent. The roads would hold up a lot better and need a lot less repairs or replacements.
 
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