I get your point backhoe1 my question was does anyone know who to contact about an appraisal,and iam thinking your machine was different,i don't know,but only so many of these were made they didn't work out with the small tires on the front,you couldn't steer em and couldn't handle them,serial # for mine is 80005 with high and low range and Hercules motor nothing special but iam sure its worth more than 500.00,thanks for your reply,dale murphy