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1951 DiamondT 6X6 5Ton
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King of Obsolete
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what back on topic, what is the topic again, LOL
that is what BBs are for, learning. we find out in the land of OZ you guys wear shorts everywhere, in canada, you get fired for wearing shorts on a hot day.
thansk
that is what BBs are for, learning. we find out in the land of OZ you guys wear shorts everywhere, in canada, you get fired for wearing shorts on a hot day.
thansk
Lashlander
Senior Member
Thanks Digger for removing my previous post!
As much as I do like to rattle Squizzy's cage, I'm going to try and tone down the number of my off-topic post in the regular forum sections, and keep my goofing around mostly in the TGIF section.
After I posted it I thought about Steve's thread yesterday and what he mentioned, and if anyone needed to ease up on off topic posts, it's me.:Banghead
Thanks again.
As much as I do like to rattle Squizzy's cage, I'm going to try and tone down the number of my off-topic post in the regular forum sections, and keep my goofing around mostly in the TGIF section.
After I posted it I thought about Steve's thread yesterday and what he mentioned, and if anyone needed to ease up on off topic posts, it's me.:Banghead
Thanks again.
Deas Plant
Senior Member
Back On Track - at least to Diamond T's
Hi, Folks.
Here are some photos of a rather sad old Diamond T that had been burnt out. Somewhere in her wanderings, she had been fitted with a Leyland 680 diesel engine.
Now, unless I'm mistaken, this thread is back on track with more photos of another Diamond T wrecker.
Pay up, Wrenchbender.
Lashlander, you can do what you like with your personal apparel in YOUR rather user-UN-friendly climate. I'll be wearing my shorts summer and winter where I live - 'cos I can. Where I live is one of the very few places on Earth that are actually fit for human habitation. LOL.
Hi, Folks.
Here are some photos of a rather sad old Diamond T that had been burnt out. Somewhere in her wanderings, she had been fitted with a Leyland 680 diesel engine.
Now, unless I'm mistaken, this thread is back on track with more photos of another Diamond T wrecker.
Pay up, Wrenchbender.
Lashlander, you can do what you like with your personal apparel in YOUR rather user-UN-friendly climate. I'll be wearing my shorts summer and winter where I live - 'cos I can. Where I live is one of the very few places on Earth that are actually fit for human habitation. LOL.
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Lashlander
Senior Member
Roger that! You may be right.
wrenchbender
Senior Member
Deas Plant wrote ay up, Wrenchbender.
:notworthy Ok next time I'm Down Under I'll buy you a cold Fosters.:drinkup Hey I ain't never been there the first time yet And you did get us back on topic, that old Diamond T sure has had it rough. They were never real popular around these parts except with the military and then loggers.
ay up, Wrenchbender.:notworthy Ok next time I'm Down Under I'll buy you a cold Fosters.:drinkup Hey I ain't never been there the first time yet
And you did get us back on topic, that old Diamond T sure has had it rough. They were never real popular around these parts except with the military and then loggers.
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Deas Plant
Senior Member
On paying up and getting back on topic
Hi, Wrenchbender.
I'll accept that deal. Diamond T's were not all that popular DownUnder either, except as loggers or as prime movers for road trains in the outback in the early days. They were one of the few trucks that had the 'tuff' built into them to handle the loads and the conditions. They were mostly either the straight 8 gas engines or the Hercules diesels and it didn't take long for a simple fact of life to sink in with those operating the straight 8gas engines - - - - that you had to carry a LOT of fuel to get that big gas banger over the distances that were involved.
Back when road trains first started running just after WW 2, thanks to one Kurt Johannsen, there were not many regulations covering their use or their size and bigger was usually considered better. (Comments below are for the site above the comment in each case.)
http://www.roadtrains.com.au/
You need to register as a member to see the photos on the site but registration is free. So far I have not been able to find anywhere to log in once you are a member but I have fired off an enquiry to them about this lack this morning.
http://everything2.com/index.pl?node=Road train
This site has some interesting - if partially incorrect (the longest road train record) - information about road trains.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Road_train
This site is the Wikipedia version of what road trains are all about. Again the road train record information is out of date. I think the record now stands at 117 trailers and is held by Doug Gould Transport of Kalgoorlie, Western Australia.
http://www.4wdonline.com/ClassicTrucks/AECroadTrain.html
This one is about a specialised road train prime mover that didn't take off.
http://www.ebroadcast.com.au/ecars/Places/Au/Road-Trains.html
Advice for car drivers encountering a road train.
http://www.4wdonline.com/ClassicTrucks/BigLizzie.html
Big Lizzie.
That'll do for now.
Hi, Wrenchbender.
I'll accept that deal. Diamond T's were not all that popular DownUnder either, except as loggers or as prime movers for road trains in the outback in the early days. They were one of the few trucks that had the 'tuff' built into them to handle the loads and the conditions. They were mostly either the straight 8 gas engines or the Hercules diesels and it didn't take long for a simple fact of life to sink in with those operating the straight 8gas engines - - - - that you had to carry a LOT of fuel to get that big gas banger over the distances that were involved.
Back when road trains first started running just after WW 2, thanks to one Kurt Johannsen, there were not many regulations covering their use or their size and bigger was usually considered better. (Comments below are for the site above the comment in each case.)
http://www.roadtrains.com.au/
You need to register as a member to see the photos on the site but registration is free. So far I have not been able to find anywhere to log in once you are a member but I have fired off an enquiry to them about this lack this morning.
http://everything2.com/index.pl?node=Road train
This site has some interesting - if partially incorrect (the longest road train record) - information about road trains.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Road_train
This site is the Wikipedia version of what road trains are all about. Again the road train record information is out of date. I think the record now stands at 117 trailers and is held by Doug Gould Transport of Kalgoorlie, Western Australia.
http://www.4wdonline.com/ClassicTrucks/AECroadTrain.html
This one is about a specialised road train prime mover that didn't take off.
http://www.ebroadcast.com.au/ecars/Places/Au/Road-Trains.html
Advice for car drivers encountering a road train.
http://www.4wdonline.com/ClassicTrucks/BigLizzie.html
Big Lizzie.
That'll do for now.
wrenchbender
Senior Member
Big'uns and Little'uns
http://www.ebroadcast.com.au/ecars/P...ad-Trains.html
Advice for car drivers encountering a road train.
This one reminded me of what my Dad always said " the biggest vehicle always has the right of way no matter what!" I've tried to live by this simple rule and so far I have not beed squashed by a large vehicle yet. I once as a kid asked why the bigger vehicles had the right of way his answer was also a simple one " you can see him but can he see you?" he took a marble and a bowling ball rolled them to me and said stop them. I did as he ask then he ask me was the marble harder to stop or the bowling ball? Of coarse you know the answer he then explained the marble was a car and the bowling ball was a semi. And at the age of about 8 I began to understand why the big'uns had the right of way. In short they can't see you and if they could they can't stop so stay out of thier way! And all of the above is directly related to the Diamond T (poor visabilty and even worse brakes)
My old Diamond T has a gas guzzling inline six . She tops out at about 45-47 mph. Without anything hanging up behind it there is no emergency stopping at full speed with a good load you don't hit full speed not even if you could. Tried useing the Georgia overdrive (slip it in neutral going downhill ) once as I was in a big hurry well it was hitting close to 60 mph on this long steep hill. Those old GI tires were bouncing me up and down at about 90 mph when out of no where came a very large bore hog maybe 5-600 lbs. Yep I hit him felt as the old Diamond T was airborn for a split second or so. And the first thing I thought of was the marble and bowling ball that is after I checked my shorts. BTW if you throw a 1951 Diamond T into Georgia overdrive you can't get it back into gear untill it gets down to about 40 ish mph. Then with proper manipulation( grind scrape grind double clutch grind WOT clutch up/down grind clunk) you can force it back into high gear. And usually by the time you have it back in gear you don't need to slow down any more. I DON'T RECOMEND Georgia overdrive on these vehicles.
http://www.ebroadcast.com.au/ecars/P...ad-Trains.html
Advice for car drivers encountering a road train.
This one reminded me of what my Dad always said " the biggest vehicle always has the right of way no matter what!" I've tried to live by this simple rule and so far I have not beed squashed by a large vehicle yet. I once as a kid asked why the bigger vehicles had the right of way his answer was also a simple one " you can see him but can he see you?" he took a marble and a bowling ball rolled them to me and said stop them. I did as he ask then he ask me was the marble harder to stop or the bowling ball? Of coarse you know the answer he then explained the marble was a car and the bowling ball was a semi. And at the age of about 8 I began to understand why the big'uns had the right of way. In short they can't see you and if they could they can't stop so stay out of thier way! And all of the above is directly related to the Diamond T (poor visabilty and even worse brakes)
My old Diamond T has a gas guzzling inline six . She tops out at about 45-47 mph. Without anything hanging up behind it there is no emergency stopping at full speed with a good load you don't hit full speed not even if you could. Tried useing the Georgia overdrive (slip it in neutral going downhill ) once as I was in a big hurry well it was hitting close to 60 mph on this long steep hill. Those old GI tires were bouncing me up and down at about 90 mph when out of no where came a very large bore hog maybe 5-600 lbs. Yep I hit him felt as the old Diamond T was airborn for a split second or so. And the first thing I thought of was the marble and bowling ball that is after I checked my shorts. BTW if you throw a 1951 Diamond T into Georgia overdrive you can't get it back into gear untill it gets down to about 40 ish mph. Then with proper manipulation( grind scrape grind double clutch grind WOT clutch up/down grind clunk) you can force it back into high gear. And usually by the time you have it back in gear you don't need to slow down any more. I DON'T RECOMEND Georgia overdrive on these vehicles.
Deas Plant
Senior Member
Jaw-ja O-drive.
Hi, Wrenchbender.
Nice story about how not to do it. Almost all of the old crash box rigs and those with slow-banger donks were pretty much impossible to get back into gear until they had slowed down to a road speed that was within the range of their top engine revs and still not easy at that.
BTW, Jaw-ja O-drive is also sometimes known as Angel Gear or Sloppy Cog.
I ran crash box 15 ton Euclids a bit and you could go from a standing start, loaded or empty, change all the way up to 5th gear and back again without touching the clutch. BUT, miss a change and that jigger would have your hand all black and blue quicker-n a flash. The gear lever in those suckers was about 4 feet long, 2" thick at the base and had about a 2" steel ball on top for a knob.
I LOVE power-shift.
Hi, Wrenchbender.
Nice story about how not to do it. Almost all of the old crash box rigs and those with slow-banger donks were pretty much impossible to get back into gear until they had slowed down to a road speed that was within the range of their top engine revs and still not easy at that.
BTW, Jaw-ja O-drive is also sometimes known as Angel Gear or Sloppy Cog.
I ran crash box 15 ton Euclids a bit and you could go from a standing start, loaded or empty, change all the way up to 5th gear and back again without touching the clutch. BUT, miss a change and that jigger would have your hand all black and blue quicker-n a flash. The gear lever in those suckers was about 4 feet long, 2" thick at the base and had about a 2" steel ball on top for a knob.
I LOVE power-shift.
This should be required reading for any applicant of a driver's license. Good stuff!!
wrenchbender
Senior Member
Steve, if my Dad was still around he would agree 110%!