Yes we have done all the above. We're no certified cat mechanics, but we have hy machines for 30 plus years. That certainly doesn't mean I know it all I'm always open to hearing what you guys have to think that's why I post here. And yes we have good fuel flowing. The pumps only about $100 so I figure it's the first stop. It's acting exactly like it did 10 15 years ago when I had this happen. So I figured I'd give this a whirl. We did all the preliminaries before the pump. And no joke, you're right about the panties. The guy that's actually operating this machine is retired from owning his own business. They had a big logging operation. Once they were logging all the way up at the tip of upper Michigan in copper harbor and they had a Big timber Jack skidder with fuel problems. And you are correct, they fished out a pair of panties! He was just tell me about it about 3 days ago