Differences between scrapers...

[alan627b]

Last two.

 

[RollOver Pete]

Looks similar to the Cummins C150 or C180 in this Mack at Kiaser Steel's Eagle Mt. Mine in Desert Center, Ca.

 

[mattyjc]

Really intresting thread this one, Im quite new to the site but have been lurking for a while. I currently drive a few different scrapers all moving coal, so we self load and only use the Dozers (D8L and D9R which I also operate) when we are stuck! Currently we have 4 Terex TS40's which have a 32 cu yrd bowls, these are the best for coal handling due to the shape of the bowl and the ejector. The are just uncomfortable after a couple of hours!
We also have 2 637 series2E and a 637E which have greedy boards fitted to the bowl so have a greater capacity, though off the top of my head I cant remember what it is.
I think my favorite is the series 2, but all are good.

Cheers

Matt

 

[N.CarolinaDozer]

Some of our scrapers. 621,631,613 I've ran all these.:drinkup

 

[Countryboy]

Welcome to Heavy Equipment Forums mattyjc! :drinkup

 

[petersfamilytru]

Scraper setup

I build cranberry bogs in Oregon and I use a John Deere 762 Paddle Wheel scraper. There are bigger, faster, better machines, but I like the size and ride comfort of the John Deere. When we are loading sand, instead of putting my dozer in teh sandpit, I push the scraper with a 644B loader. That way I keep my tracks out of the sand and I'm able to give the scraper that little extra horsepower it needs to load out in soft sand.

 

[Northart]

Pushing scraper ?

You are definetly using the wrong tool to push a scraper !

You will pay the price in a premature, worn out torque converter ! Big $$$$$$ to repair for what gain ????

A Local contractor used a Cat 966C to pull a sheepsfoot, Silt soils for compaction. Cost him a $40,000 repair . A loader not meant for that kind of work.

The job repairs were analyzed after the fact. Wrong approach. Should of used a dozer built for the purpose.

Maybe this will , might , help . :beatsme

 

[petersfamilytru]

Wrong Tool

I would tend to agree with the "wrong tool for the job" comment, except for a few mitigating facts. First, this is a very inexpensive old loader with pretty cheap and available components. Second, the push isn't hard, it's more for traction than anything. We make short passes when loading out sand and the expense on an undercarriage far exceeds the cost of a a whole loader of this vintage.

Thanks for the suggestions... I would tend to agree with observations if I hadn't been doing it for several years on a specialized type of job.

 

[Northart]

Job Conditions ?

You still have to factor in the true job costs of having some one on the JD 644 pushing the scraper. Labor costs (Not Free) + machine costs !

If you continue, what about replacement cost of the (cheap)JD 644 ?? Got to think about that some day.

Just some things you got to address .

Best wishes in your endeavors .

 

[petersfamilytru]

My rusty, I mean trusty old John Deere paddle wheel.

Not much to look at, but it's been a pretty dependable machine.

 

[EZ TRBO]

Heres a few pics of the 860 we have, as well as a few of the other rented ones we have used. I'll toss in some pull pans as well.
Trbo

1. 860 brand new in 1970

2. 860 and 762 on road re-construction, with both TD-15C's

3. Hauling black dirt to cover borrow area

 

[EZ TRBO]

Here are a few more
Trbo

1. hauling in fill for pond dam.

2.covering borrow area for lagoon with black dirt

3. old td's and a pull scraper

 

[ravenseye]

ts14 tandem three axle scraper

http://discuss.ibdozing.com/discus/messages/7/3513.html?1163632125
Here is a site worth a look seeya

 

[hiballer627]

Sweet link! That old beast looks tough to run. I'd love to try one, but its rare to see anything but Cat power in scraper fleets around here.

 

[Taylortractornu]

Those are some good looking Deere scrapers there sure hate they quit building them. I ve run one since I was 14. What little I have run a 613 I d take the 762 any day on the comfort. I think the 613 has the hottest driverside panel and floor board around. Deere doesnt carry many part any more we have to aftermarket every thing Ballentine Chain has been really helpful. I also noticed that the hydrostaic pump for the elevator was the same as the hydrostatic drive on a 715 IHC combine. Dad bought one when he first started the private landfill for Belmont homes and we wore it out then the transmission went down when we were reclaiming the fill when they went out of the mobile home biz. Then Tiffins bought the site and we found a different year 762 with a weak motor and a bad chain for 10000 , but it had new tires. Our old one JD wanted 20000 to rebuild the trans and another company wanted 15000, sow we bought this one and traded chains and motors. The only times dad allows us to push is when we pick up our sawdust roads when they get soaked as the clay underneath is soggy.
Didnt some of the later 862's come with a hydrostatic pusher axle. A friend that lives behind the landfill owns a chicken farm I trade earth work for his litter spreading to save us Fertilizer. We built a pad for his new barn and he had us and had a borrowed tractor and pan and he couldnt believe that The paddle wheel ground up the soil like it did. Made alot easier for his little dozer to spread. and it compacts alot better.

 

[Tones]

 

[Parttimeheavyequip]

Does anyone have any knowledge what the difficulty of separating a Cat 830mb from a 18yrd dirt pan would be. I recently just bought one and have to get it shipped here in two pieces. Having never seen it I’m in the dark as to what it would take and if one person would be able to do it themselves or if it would take two people to get the job done. Any info would be appreciated.