John C.
Senior Member
I've maintained a few fleets and run my oil selection by price, manufacturer's recomendations and the SAE ratings on the product. I've seen companies spend extra money for higher priced oil and then try to extend change intervals. I have never seen the economics pan out.
The statements made about who's oil is better or worse I've found to be pure fluff and puffery. I haven't seen a pure lubrication failure in thirty five years in the construction industry plus growing up with my father's machines. I have also not seen that anyone was able to successfully sue an oil manufacturer because their product caused a failure.
I agree with Mr. Nolan's post in that you have to manage a fleet down to each individual machine to achieve best practices. I have been successful using oil sampling on new machines until they are out of drive train warranties but consider it a waste of money there after. I've found out from personal experience that it cost a lot of money and time, gave incomplete or inconsistant results and caused lots of sleepless nights.
I used to use sampling before purchase of used machinery but have found most all sellers change all the oils before I do an inspection. So unless I see something obvious I skip that process.
I don't begrudge anyone who wants to spend extra money on anyone's oil, nor do I think oil sampling is a bad idea. I do think either program should be looked at very carefully for the actual economic benefit.
The statements made about who's oil is better or worse I've found to be pure fluff and puffery. I haven't seen a pure lubrication failure in thirty five years in the construction industry plus growing up with my father's machines. I have also not seen that anyone was able to successfully sue an oil manufacturer because their product caused a failure.
I agree with Mr. Nolan's post in that you have to manage a fleet down to each individual machine to achieve best practices. I have been successful using oil sampling on new machines until they are out of drive train warranties but consider it a waste of money there after. I've found out from personal experience that it cost a lot of money and time, gave incomplete or inconsistant results and caused lots of sleepless nights.
I used to use sampling before purchase of used machinery but have found most all sellers change all the oils before I do an inspection. So unless I see something obvious I skip that process.
I don't begrudge anyone who wants to spend extra money on anyone's oil, nor do I think oil sampling is a bad idea. I do think either program should be looked at very carefully for the actual economic benefit.