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Finding a Crusher

wrc

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Any good leads where to find a cheap usable crusher? I have an unlimited supply of concrete rubble, and a small amount of limestone. But am looking for something to process old concrete pavement into something usable. Down the road may consider a screen plant as well to separate the fines out. So if there is a crusher/screen plant all in one may be interested in that also. This is totally new to me as I have never been around aggregate crushing. Any tips, tricks, and places to learn are greatly appreciated.
 

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Any good leads where to find a cheap usable crusher? I have an unlimited supply of concrete rubble, and a small amount of limestone. But am looking for something to process old concrete pavement into something usable. Down the road may consider a screen plant as well to separate the fines out. So if there is a crusher/screen plant all in one may be interested in that also. This is totally new to me as I have never been around aggregate crushing. Any tips, tricks, and places to learn are greatly appreciated.
Did you win the lottery? You're gonna need it for this venture.
 

wrc

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Did you win the lottery? You're gonna need it for this venture.
That's what I'm seeing. This the reason I asked for cheap used up stuff. May no even be a possibility. But a guy can dream right.
 

funwithfuel

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Used up is gonna cost more to get up n running than it's worth. See about optioned rentals before taking the dive. See if that's what you really want to do. You may just burn through all the material in a short term lease.
Have you crushed before, do you have a loader and an excavator to keep her fed? Are you gonna run into problems with the local municipality over dust control? Got a good water supply? Is your material contaminated with tramp iron and other uncrushable material?
Planning on a jaw or an impactor? Each has advantages and disadvantages. Both depending on how much help and equipment you're willing to dedicate to this endeavor.
Weigh all that against, "What can I get for the finished product? "
There's a few here who would love to see you succeed and willing to share experience and suggestions. Just don't want to see someone sign a deed on the poor house with eyes wide shut. Good luck
 

wrc

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Used up is gonna cost more to get up n running than it's worth. See about optioned rentals before taking the dive. See if that's what you really want to do. You may just burn through all the material in a short term lease.
Have you crushed before, do you have a loader and an excavator to keep her fed? Are you gonna run into problems with the local municipality over dust control? Got a good water supply? Is your material contaminated with tramp iron and other uncrushable material?
Planning on a jaw or an impactor? Each has advantages and disadvantages. Both depending on how much help and equipment you're willing to dedicate to this endeavor.
Weigh all that against, "What can I get for the finished product? "
There's a few here who would love to see you succeed and willing to share experience and suggestions. Just don't want to see someone sign a deed on the poor house with eyes wide shut. Good luck
Looking for a jaw crusher I think. The material I have is basically iron free. I do have excavators with hammers and Loaders to feed/sort/size down. I have never crushed before I don't think it will really pay to try and produce and sell this material. Mostly looking for my own jobs. We do sewer and water works and produce around 1-20 dump truck loads of broken concrete per job. If I could dump myself and not have to pay then have a usable product it may be worth it. But I'm not looking to turn this into a full scale crushing operation. Simply a support operation for my existing excavation company. Honestly the reason I want a 15-30 ton per hour plant is so I could dedicate a week or so every 6 months to crushing and only crush a couple times a year
 

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Then I would strongly recommend a rental. Try it for 30 days. See if it's something you might be interested in ling term. Crushers, regardless of type, do not want to sit. Vermin set up shop and eat wiring and such.
Crushing equipment is usually investment grade. Meaning it's purchased for life and used till it's dust. Used usually only pop up at auction from either a heavy hwy project winding down or an aggregate business going belly-up. Both will be lacking routine maintenance and suffering neglect. Keep that in mind. A small jaw 42" or so should hit your target. I tend to preach KPI/JCI when it comes to crushing and screening. Lately I've been looking at electric plants from Kleeman. There's a buttload of other mfrs, I'm just familiar and comfortable with these. Keep in mind, made in USA will be more profitable than paying import fees and tariffs on off shore brands. Plus how many guys are knowledgeable about foreign power plants vs Cat or Cummins. Just food for thought.
 

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I'm not sure you're going to be able to get usable material with only a jaw, the tighter you choke it down, the slower you're going to get stuff through. My guess is the smallest you're going to be able to efficiently produce will be 3" minus. Maybe that's small enough?
 

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Are you planning to sell material or use it on jobs? There's two companies near me that recycle concrete and sell it as base material. They seem to be doing pretty well. Keep in mind you can charge others to dump their concrete at your yard and make money on both ends. It will take an investment but in my area there's a good market.
 

wrc

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Are you planning to sell material or use it on jobs? There's two companies near me that recycle concrete and sell it as base material. They seem to be doing pretty well. Keep in mind you can charge others to dump their concrete at your yard and make money on both ends. It will take an investment but in my area there's a good market.
I'm hoping to get 1-1/2 materials. Plan on using myself, unless it goes over well and there proves to be a market. I can buy crushed concrete around here already from one supplier. They routinely run out tho. I'm doing this more to avoid the dump fees
 

wrc

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Then I would strongly recommend a rental. Try it for 30 days. See if it's something you might be interested in ling term. Crushers, regardless of type, do not want to sit. Vermin set up shop and eat wiring and such.
Crushing equipment is usually investment grade. Meaning it's purchased for life and used till it's dust. Used usually only pop up at auction from either a heavy hwy project winding down or an aggregate business going belly-up. Both will be lacking routine maintenance and suffering neglect. Keep that in mind. A small jaw 42" or so should hit your target. I tend to preach KPI/JCI when it comes to crushing and screening. Lately I've been looking at electric plants from Kleeman. There's a buttload of other mfrs, I'm just familiar and comfortable with these. Keep in mind, made in USA will be more profitable than paying import fees and tariffs on off shore brands. Plus how many guys are knowledgeable about foreign power plants vs Cat or Cummins. Just food for thought.
Any ideas where to look for a rental machine? I am unaware of anything local to north east Kansas
 

funwithfuel

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Any ideas where to look for a rental machine? I am unaware of anything local to north east Kansas
I don't have an answer to that. Check with the bigger equipment sales , Cat, Deere, Komatsu and Volvo. One of them should be supporting infrastructure building and maintenance. They should be able to either help you directly or hook you up with a guy. Roadbuilders are pretty tight. Everybody knows somebody.
 

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Back in the 90's, there were a lot of used, compact, "all in one" Crusher setups for sale. Several companies had built them in the 50's and 60's, for the military. IF, you could find one of these old rigs, it would be perfect for what you want to do. Most could make 2 or 3 products at the same time. Usually they were jaw/roll, or jaw, impact rigs. They generally ran off of a stationary diesel sitting on the rig, or close by, (with belts). I don't know if you can find any of these old rigs in operating condition anymore, but they usually had low hours. Parts should still be available from aftermarket suppliers. Pioneer and Cedar Rapids built most of them as I recall.
 
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