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JD 333D joystick issue

thuynh360

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After starting the skid steer, I attempted to activate the hydraulics. An active code appears:

2213.09 - Left joystick CAN Data Abnormal Rate

With the code present, It won't allow me to activate the hydraulics or the tracks so its stuck out in the field until I can get it fixed.

Oddly, prior to the code appearing, it was running perfectly fine. However it was parked for a few days.

I've taken apart the entire left joystick, broke everything down to its individual pieces, and thoroughly cleaned everything. Unfortunately it didn't do much.

I thought maybe that the sensor was bad so I tried swapping sensors with the RT side and it still shows the same code - which now leads me to believe it may have fallen out of calibration somehow....keep in mind that the only reason why I was able to swap the RT sensor in was because it was the same part number for both sides.

Does anybody have any tests that I can perform or possibly the factory service manuals so I can do some proper diagnostic testing myself??
 

mg2361

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If you swapped the right joystick with the left it did not work because each joystick is a computer and has an address broadcast over the CAN. So no matter where you put it the HCU thinks it is there and knows it is the right joystick. If you plugged the left joystick into the right side plug and the HCU still does not see the joystick then most likely a bad joystick. I would still test the "CAN" network between the joystick and the HCU (Green and Yellow wires) just to make sure. Unplug joystick, key off, use an ohm meter and measure between the green and yellow wires (careful not to damage the pins), should have 60 ohms. Then check continuity of the wires between the joystick and the HCU. If it tests OK, you will need a joystick....OUCH!
 

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thuynh360

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Very interesting. That would explain the scenario and the active code still appearing no matter where the joystick was plugged in at.

Another question - If all the wiring checks out, could I simply purchase a new joystick, plug it in and all should work again? Or would I need to figure out how to program the new joystick to be recognized? If so, what is the procedure or what equipment do I need to do this?
 

mg2361

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You should be able to plug it in and then you need to perform hydraulic and hydrostitic calibrations. If there is software involved that needs to be downloaded only a dealer can do that. I do not think there is for the joystick. If there is there will be paperwork with the joystick saying so. If you do not have the operation and test manual, then give me your email and machine serial number and I will send you the calibration procedures.
 

mg2361

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Rather than putting your email out there, let's start a conversation to get you those procedures.
 
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