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Acoals

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I couldn’t do it. I thought about excavating that thread……. Just couldn’t do it. :)

Ahh, somebody else dug the Classic up . . .

 

Buffallobull

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Perk test site, basic picture of the property. 180 acres…. Anyone need a good hunting property? It boarders state game lands on the other side of the mountain….
 

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HarleyHappy

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Yes yes yes. You selling or offering hunting land?
You doing leases or whatever?
Looking for hunting land out of state, have been going to NY last couple of years but need a change and how steep is it? Tugging along an 85 year old kid/father.
 

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That was quick! I guess I’m just kidding at this point… but if we decide to sell it I’ll post here first. It has old logging roads all over it. That satellite shot is from google earth from 2000 I think. It is sloped, goes from 1200 ft to 2000ft and then the last 200ft is almost vertical up to 2200 ft. This is it today. Just got the 40ft high cube up there last week!
 

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Ahh, somebody else dug the Classic up . . .

I'm the guilty one...

I have to look it up again every couple years...
 

AMBMike

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So 16500 delivered on that PC300…still not worth it? If not, is there a price that would make it worth it?
Is this the PC300-3 you mentioned earlier?

I'm not very familiar with them but if the guys that know say parts and support are unavailable I'd be very hesitant to purchase it and I'm comfortable working on my own equipment.

At the very least pay a mechanic who's comfortable working on heavy equipment to look it over for you before you put any money on it. There'd be no guarantees of course but he should be able to give you an idea if it'll work for a while before dying or if it's already on it's last breath.

Ask the seller for all maintenance records. They'll provide some insight as well.

Buying and shipping an old machine can be the cheapest part of owning it. Some equipment would be too expensive for me if it was delivered to my place at no charge.
 

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I think I would get it figured out if you even want to build on this site before I bought equipment.

Solar and generator three hours from civilization sounds fun if you're 23-43 Not so fun if you're 63, and this is your retirement home. Because you're going to need doctor visits and what if you want to visit the grandkids for a month or go to key West for 2 weeks in the winter?

As far as $16,500 being cheap enough, for me, it doesn't matter how cheap a piece of equipment might be, there's some equipment that isn't worth buying no matter what the price is.

You've been warned by guys that are familiar with that particular machine. Sometimes spending a extra $10-15,000 upfront for a better newer machine with better support is the best money you can spend. And if you can't afford the extra $10-15,000 now, you sure can't afford it in parts and labor to fix a old machine. Do you want to move dirt, or do you want to wrench on a machine?

Posting up 10 pictures of the machine here, will give the experts something to go off of for giving advice. Hiring a local independent heavy equipment mechanic for 2 hours to give it a going over would also be money well spent if you don't know what you are looking at.
 
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A 300 can absolutely do a lot of work and a wide undercarriage provides an extra degree of safety in steep country. Tree work is safer with a larger machine. In my opinion at that price it could definitely be worth buying...do a bunch of work then can resell (for same money as paid) as it is fully depreciated by this point. BUT......

You MUST know how to do a proper inspection; or hire out a full inspection. As stated by others, you must expect major issues obtaining parts---and/or a lot of internet research & time to find those parts.....

The concept of a cheap/old machine can only work if the machine is in good enough condition to work (more or less reliably) in its CURRENT condition. It could easily turn into a disaster if say....the swing bearing goes out, or one or both travel motors fail (need good tracking power with a large machine in steep country)

We have some experience with this concept...In 2014 I purchased a 20,000+ hour Hitachi EX270 roadbuilder. I realized the seller didn't know the turbo was sooted up and not spinning. Some careful cleaning and lubricating with WD40 and no more rolling coal! Good Hino power plant, Rotek was tight, had tagged/rebuilt main pumps and good strong tracking power. Made us a good income that summer and sold the next season for $22k (paid $14k). That said; I knew how to inspect the machine and what to look for. I spent at least 2 hours going over the machine before I made an offer to buy....

Need to tread very carefully...but if you do find a good unit be ready to act quickly

Good luck!
 

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Think of it this way. If you buy a machine, you really shouldn’t be working it do death. These machines are meant to be run. If it’s a decent machine, makes good power after running it a while, tracks pretty decent and at least 50% of undercarriage is there, it’s just a gamble.
As BC said, it’s only way to get cheaper, is if it’s dead.
Personally though, I have built 2 houses for myself off rough land.
Both times, I hired out the majority of the land clearing and excavation and supplemented that by buying a backhoe and completing the stuff that I was comfortable with and had the time to do.
Like the driveway and the power and landscaping.
By hiring out the heavy work, that let me save enough money and allowed me to have leeway to pick and choose what I wanted to do.
This last house, the electrical would have been 80k.
I dug 1500’ of trench, bought my own pad, installed my own conduit and still had to pay 9k to have the wire pulled, up to the meter.
The driveway, would have been 35k, after it was roughed in.
If you are serious about building, find the areas you can save serious money and stay away from areas you can’t.
I tried to get pricing on wells, foundation, insulation, the whole gamut.
Originally, I was gonna to do a modular, until I found a builder that could get prices on these things, way cheaper that I could.
My well for instance, is 440’ down and I got quotes from people I had used in the past and their quotes were insane.
The builder I used had it done, by a company I had never head of, for 5k.
The foundation, I had quotes for 16 to 24k.
He had it done for 8k.
There are ways to save money and there are ways to lose it.
Just make sure and take a lot of pictures and have fun!
 

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I like your process. I’m at a bit of a disadvantage because I’m new to the area. I had found a local contractor but he passed away unexpectedly a couple weeks ago. Young guy… sad. I’ve built a couple houses as well over the years of moving around in the service. Both custom and subdivision builders. The custom I built the driveway through a swamp and cleared the lot, dug the footers and the septic with an old JCB 1400b. Then dug a pond and basically had a blast doing all that. This driveway is going to be 5000ft + and the power run will be the same. I’ll post a picture of if I can draw it out on google earth.
 

Buffallobull

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I was wrong it’s actually about 3800 ft for the power. There are existing logging roads but I’ll need to level out one so that will be about 1100 ft of new road to connect the flat parts.
 

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The 300, yes get it inspected IF!!!!!
It has a progressive thumb.
No proper thumb, no sale.
You have plenty of that kind of work.
 

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When those things break down in bad locations, they are very difficult to deal with and become a liability. With open center Komatsu hydraulics, that PC300 will empty a drum of hydraulic fluid onto your pristine mountain property faster than you can shut it off.

I say it’s worth scrap value minus transportation expenses, on the best of days. But, you do you, caribou. Please keep us updated.
 
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