New guy no clue

[davejo]

Let me be a yay-sayer. I think there is a cheap machine out there that will suit. You are not too far from coal mining areas. Is this excavator from the guy in everett?

What is the current budget allowed now that you have more data?

How wide is your access bridge? Looks like an old trestle on the aerial view.

I often go to western maryland to trailride and am always looking for new spots so if you want another set of eyes for ideas, let me know. I'm in the "gentleman antique equipment owner club" GAEOC and have had a good time so far. Life is too short not to have ever owned an excavator, etc.

 

[smifwal]

Agree, the 50k price is just for the wire and the transformer, I still have to dig the trench, lay the conduit and place all the fiberglass junction boxes and the PADs. Power company says that it has to be 3 inch schd 40 pvc pipe! No HDPE…. Ridiculous…. I figure I’m close to 100k just to get power to the house!

Do they not allow boring? HDPE is what they would be putting in. But in reality 3" sdr 13.5 is a real bitch to get laid down in a open trench especially if it is cold

 

[Buffallobull]

Sorry I ghosted again, I wasn’t getting updates for some reason. The engineer I spoke with from the power company said pvc only. I specifically asked about the HDPE since it would easier and cheaper. West Penn power???

Found this guy it’s closer to the budget with a thumb. Located in state about 3 hours away from the land. I have not been to the place in Everett yet… I probably need to go by there.

 

[Buffallobull]

Let me be a yay-sayer. I think there is a cheap machine out there that will suit. You are not too far from coal mining areas. Is this excavator from the guy in everett?

What is the current budget allowed now that you have more data?

How wide is your access bridge? Looks like an old trestle on the aerial view.

I often go to western maryland to trailride and am always looking for new spots so if you want another set of eyes for ideas, let me know. I'm in the "gentleman antique equipment owner club" GAEOC and have had a good time so far. Life is too short not to have ever owned an excavator, etc.

Yes old rail road bridge

 

[HarleyHappy]

How many hours on the Kobelco?

 

[Buffallobull]

8000ish

 

[HarleyHappy]

Meh, pay someone that knows what they are doing, to go look at it with you.
Check undercarriage and tracks, swivel, finals, work it a little.
Looks like a smaller dealer, would negotiate oil samples into prospective offer.
Looks like a decent size and machine from crappy picture.
Doesn’t look like a progressive thumb but hard to tell from pic.

 

[Buffallobull]

https://www.hollingerequipment.com/inventory/?/listing/for-sale/252614889/2012-kobelco-sk210-lc-acera-mark-9-crawler-excavators?dlr=1&accountcrmid=2107&settingscrmid=2108

 

[CM1995]

Couple of quick thoughts other than the normal things to have checked on an 8K hour machine.

Bucket cylinder appears to be leaking. See what appears to be hydro oil on the back of the bucket.

Bucket is heavily worn and labeled Neff. Neff was a heavy equipment rental house that sold out to United a few years back IIRC. Rented from Neff several times they were known for renting excavators with hammers. This machine may or may not be a Neff rental and it may or may not have spent most of it's life with a hammer on the stick instead of a bucket.

Rented many an excavator with hammer from Neff before I bought one for our 325.

See if you can get ownership records in addition to all the other machine info.

 

[smifwal]

Sorry I ghosted again, I wasn’t getting updates for some reason. The engineer I spoke with from the power company said pvc only. I specifically asked about the HDPE since it would easier and cheaper. West Penn power???

It is 3" right and you are talking about a open trench? I personally don't think HDPE in 3-in would be easier than PVC in a open trench 2 in and below absolutely. You could get a guy out there with a line tamer to straighten the pipe off the spool then yes, but my guy down here lives a state over about 3 hours away is $4K a day to show up. Cost wise yes HDPE is cheaper, my cost difference is .25 more for pvc and then add glue but that is minimal for me I pay $15/quart and I can get 1000 feet per can Ish. And as far as labor the walking and bending over is a lot but I only install 20' sticks so half the bending how many feet are we talking and you want me to call this engineer for you lol but seriously I love talking to those planners especially when they spout nonsense that differs from their published specs and makes my life more difficult, I have had more than one say "really it says that,what page did you say that is on?"

 

[Buffallobull]

Probably close to 3800 ft.

 

[Willie B]

Sorry I ghosted again, I wasn’t getting updates for some reason. The engineer I spoke with from the power company said pvc only. I specifically asked about the HDPE since it would easier and cheaper. West Penn power???

Found this guy it’s closer to the budget with a thumb. Located in state about 3 hours away from the land. I have not been to the place in Everett yet… I probably need to go by there.

There is a product rated 15,000 volts with the #1 awg copper/ 1/0 aluminum spun around it, .175" thick X linked polyethylene, Then an outer coating equivalent to schedule 40 PVC. Cost is reduced compared to conduit & cable.
In VT Green Mountain Power gets what they want. Electricians can involve themselves with the ditching, sand placement, setting transformer bases and everything secondary voltage. I haven't used this product myself. It is promising. It saves material cost, labor, and it can easily run thousands of feet without pull stations every 500 feet.

 

[Buffallobull]

Where is the best place to buy 3inch PVC?

 

[Buffallobull]

There is a product rated 15,000 volts with the #1 awg copper/ 1/0 aluminum spun around it, .175" thick X linked polyethylene, Then an outer coating equivalent to schedule 40 PVC. Cost is reduced compared to conduit & cable.
In VT Green Mountain Power gets what they want. Electricians can involve themselves with the ditching, sand placement, setting transformer bases and everything secondary voltage. I haven't used this product myself. It is promising. It saves material cost, labor, and it can easily run thousands of feet without pull stations every 500 feet.

I’m sure based on my interactions with West Penn power they not interested in any new fangled wire

 

[HarleyHappy]

Well, you might want to repair that relationship as this job can turn out to be very costly or unobtainable.
At first my electric company treated me like they didn’t want my business but thankfully I was able to suck up to the female estimator, it ended up halving my bill.
Just make sure you get 20’ sticks.
I did half my run with 10’ sticks and it sucked.
Make sure you plan for 3 2” sticks on top for media and security.
Installing electrical services, is one place, it pays to think ahead.
I did 3 extra and now wish I had done 4.

 

[smifwal]

There is a product rated 15,000 volts with the #1 awg copper/ 1/0 aluminum spun around it, .175" thick X linked polyethylene, Then an outer coating equivalent to schedule 40 PVC. Cost is reduced compared to conduit & cable.
In VT Green Mountain Power gets what they want. Electricians can involve themselves with the ditching, sand placement, setting transformer bases and everything secondary voltage. I haven't used this product myself. It is promising. It saves material cost, labor, and it can easily run thousands of feet without pull stations every 500 feet.

That would be a primary wire, I thought we are talking secondary, but even for primary that would be direct bury, the main 2 power companies here won't let you do direct bury and you really shouldn't want to, if it gets damaged you can't just fix the conduit and then pull a new line you have to dig up 500'. On some of the commercial projects I have worked on they make you install a spare, another power company here make you install a feeder to the next property line for future expansion (commercial)

@ Buffallobull, I will look though the document you sent this evening when I get home as for where to buy conduit a electrical supply place be where I would start. Tell them you are not an electrician but you want to buy a boatload of conduit did you ever say how many feet you were going? A lift of 3 in is going to be 1,760 ft

 

[Buffallobull]

Going to need 2 of those probably, 3800 ft run.

 

[Willie B]

Common negotiation to a new development. Power companies call it loop fed, it amounts to twice the capacity of primary. Nobody is going to be receptive to digging up the development to provide more capacity. Loop fed puts double the expected capacity from the start.

 

[Willie B]

That would be a primary wire, I thought we are talking secondary, but even for primary that would be direct bury, the main 2 power companies here won't let you do direct bury and you really shouldn't want to, if it gets damaged you can't just fix the conduit and then pull a new line you have to dig up 500'. On some of the commercial projects I have worked on they make you install a spare, another power company here make you install a feeder to the next property line for future expansion (commercial)

@ Buffallobull, I will look though the document you sent this evening when I get home as for where to buy conduit a electrical supply place be where I would start. Tell them you are not an electrician but you want to buy a boatload of conduit did you ever say how many feet you were going? A lift of 3 in is going to be 1,760 ft

Here, secondary is limited to 650 feet for 100 amps. It has been a while since I saw a 100 amp service needed to think of long distance.
If you are that remote, you will have solar, with solar you want to approach net zero. 57 years in the trade I have worked on a few homes where "net zero" was the inspiration. Any I have seen wouldn't tolerate a solar field. Typically they are located in a forest. Might get two hours direct sun on their limited solar area on half the roof. These houses have 1/4 acre heated floor under tile, CERV units exhausting more heat than my heating system produces, intake heaters to compensate. Last "net zero" house has 53 amps input from solar when the sun is full focus on the roof, 400 amp service, loaded 24 hours a day.

 

[Buffallobull]

Thank you all for the power info, that will certainly be a factor in building but the closest alligator to my boat is still finding the right machine at an affordable price in which I can spend some time and make all this happen!

On the KOBELCO the seller got back to me saying they really don’t know, they traded for it and it needs some work on the bucket pins and all the fluids need a change but that it runs and the underneath is about 50%.