My Takeuchi excavator will stall randomly when running it. When stalls the gauges all go out and the excavator will turn over but wont start until gauges are lit. could take 1 hour or 1 day till they come back on. Checked coolant temp and levels. Checked the pump solenoid that was good. Engine will start with the solenoid out of the machine . Gauges will come back on randomly and then will run fine until a couple hours later when it will do it all over again. The lentgh of run time is getting shorter and shorter. Anyone else have this problem?
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Takeuchi 153FR randomly stalls
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heymccall
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Swap the stop or acc relay for the glow relay, and see if it changes/ cures it.
heymccall
Senior Member
I'm thinking more toward the ACC relay. If you pull the ACC relay, do the gauges quit?
Bls repair
Senior Member
Key switch may be going bad . Had this happen a few times ,usually when you use a big set of keys.
heymccall
Senior Member
Well, did you figure it out?
My TB180FR is now the same symptoms, except, on mine, the dash doesn't come back on, so, it never starts.
My TB180FR is now the same symptoms, except, on mine, the dash doesn't come back on, so, it never starts.
changed out the relays, and thought that was it. started running fine but shortly began doing the same thing again . Dash wont light up, engine will turn over but it wont start. Something is shutting the engine off. Does anyone know how many sensors this machine has? I think it might be one of the sensors. I take the injection pump solenoid off and will start and run fine with this off. So therefore its not fuel, starter....Sometimes it can sit for 10 min, sometimes an hour then the dash will light back up and then it starts but will be running it for a time and will just shut off again.
heymccall
Senior Member
It's definitely not a sensor. All the sensors will illuminate the corresponding warning light, followed by shutdown. They won't turn off the cluster.
If you don't get a lamp check at key on, then ignition source 12v is suspect.
If you don't get a lamp check at key on, then ignition source 12v is suspect.
Hello, any updates on this? I have the same exact problem. I have done the following:
Checked all relays
Inspected wiring harness (removed seat, right console, and controller under seat)
Checked control voltages at controller.
Physically inspected inside of the controller
Verified ignition switch contacts
When the dash lights are on (all of them steady) the stop solenoid works properly (even though the indicator lights are incorrect). When the dash lights are all off, the stop solenoid pulls in for a second due to the timer, but the controller does not send voltage to the emergency stop relay so the "hold" wire to the solenoid is not energized and therefore it drops back out.
I have only one time seen what I think is normal operation: turn key from OFF to RUN, all lights briefly illuminate but go back out with the exception of battery, oil, and " ! " Blinking. While in this state the rabbit light will blink if button is pressed and everything appears to work. Like I said I've only seen this happen once while I was poking around at the harness pugs for the controller. I have not been able to replicate and am unable to find any issues with the harness.
Checked all relays
Inspected wiring harness (removed seat, right console, and controller under seat)
Checked control voltages at controller.
Physically inspected inside of the controller
Verified ignition switch contacts
When the dash lights are on (all of them steady) the stop solenoid works properly (even though the indicator lights are incorrect). When the dash lights are all off, the stop solenoid pulls in for a second due to the timer, but the controller does not send voltage to the emergency stop relay so the "hold" wire to the solenoid is not energized and therefore it drops back out.
I have only one time seen what I think is normal operation: turn key from OFF to RUN, all lights briefly illuminate but go back out with the exception of battery, oil, and " ! " Blinking. While in this state the rabbit light will blink if button is pressed and everything appears to work. Like I said I've only seen this happen once while I was poking around at the harness pugs for the controller. I have not been able to replicate and am unable to find any issues with the harness.
heymccall
Senior Member
I just replaced the main computer on my 2007 TB180FR, referenced above, due to same issue. Checked and double checked grounds, relays, sensors, harness continuity, changed ignition switch, etc...
No joy. When dash didn't self check at startup, it would crank but not start.
Swapped ECM with another TB180FR here, and the problem followed the ECM.
$1100 later, and back to normal.
I have 4 TB180FR here, and, ironically, the same ECM was replace 8 years ago for loss of throttle control, along with travel rabbit, but would stay running. It wouldn't restart until it sat a day. Other than this one, none of my other 7 Takeuchis has ever had an ECM issue.
No joy. When dash didn't self check at startup, it would crank but not start.
Swapped ECM with another TB180FR here, and the problem followed the ECM.
$1100 later, and back to normal.
I have 4 TB180FR here, and, ironically, the same ECM was replace 8 years ago for loss of throttle control, along with travel rabbit, but would stay running. It wouldn't restart until it sat a day. Other than this one, none of my other 7 Takeuchis has ever had an ECM issue.
heymccall
Senior Member
Wow. 1730141990 controller is $1700.
heymccall
Senior Member
Parts manual (double check that your serial number is in the range on the front page).
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...FjAMegQIBRAB&usg=AOvVaw28ypfn4SFE04qum-HWEYnz
As for pricing, I get it from my parts portal at my Komatsu dealer (instantly) and buy from my Case dealer.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...FjAMegQIBRAB&usg=AOvVaw28ypfn4SFE04qum-HWEYnz
As for pricing, I get it from my parts portal at my Komatsu dealer (instantly) and buy from my Case dealer.
That link is for a 135, I have a 153fr. I found one parts book on Google but wrong serial number range.
I decided to pull the controller and wire it up on the bench and see what the dash lights do. That will eliminate the entire harness from the equation. I'll let you know how it goes.
I decided to pull the controller and wire it up on the bench and see what the dash lights do. That will eliminate the entire harness from the equation. I'll let you know how it goes.
heymccall
Senior Member
15830001 & up manual
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...FjAAegQIAhAB&usg=AOvVaw3rkBU_NZxKLQEAfdZITZgQ
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...FjAAegQIAhAB&usg=AOvVaw3rkBU_NZxKLQEAfdZITZgQ
heymccall
Senior Member
I did list the correct controller number.