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bam1968

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About 3 weeks ago at a friends birthday party I was visiting with a guy that dispatches for Werner Enterprises. He said that they were only hiring teams or drivers that would be willing to team drive. I said.... If a 'driver of the year' type person walked in the door looking for a job that they would only consider that person if they were willing to team up with another driver? He said... That was his understanding. I found that very interesting coming from one of the nations largest carriers. I wonder if that is the trend of some of these large carriers. I had always assumed that if you had a CDL and a heartbeat that you could get a job with these big carriers. Evidently that is not true anymore.
 

Truck Shop

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About 3 weeks ago at a friends birthday party I was visiting with a guy that dispatches for Werner Enterprises. He said that they were only hiring teams or drivers that would be willing to team drive. I said.... If a 'driver of the year' type person walked in the door looking for a job that they would only consider that person if they were willing to team up with another driver? He said... That was his understanding. I found that very interesting coming from one of the nations largest carriers. I wonder if that is the trend of some of these large carriers. I had always assumed that if you had a CDL and a heartbeat that you could get a job with these big carriers. Evidently that is not true anymore.
Policy in trucking companies changes like the weather. Most won't team for the fact of
{cooties} and poor personal hygiene traits. Teams usually consist of husband/wife just
for that reason alone. A driver might exhibit ok personality for a couple of weeks then
turn Dr Jekyll Mr. Hyde. The other big issue is driving habits, ones that are risky at best.
CR England tried that years ago only to drop it. Companies are working to keep wheels
turning 24/7 to keep revenue at a constant, burning both ends of the candle. Old ideas
being regurgitated.
 

smifwal

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Team me and my dog, but sure wouldn't want to ride around with a stranger for a week or even a day, I suffer from Misophonia, and even my dog's excessive panting pisses me off sometimes but I love him and on road trips he is normally sleep with in a few hours. I have never liked riding with other people driving

Then there are guys like my buddy's employees, during COVID he made them drive separately to to the job and gave the one driving his personal vehicle extra money for gas. Both of them were none to happy because they didn't get to talk on the way to the job
 

DDoug

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I wonder if they will go like the railroads with crew change out.
With passenger vans to haul them to a hotel, while another crew steps in and keeps driving ?
 

Truck Shop

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Under the old paper log rules teams could run 4 on 4 off till h-ll froze over. Rules today
are 11 on then off. So you have a driver crammed up in a 6'X 7' box and a passenger
seat while other is driving which can lead to anxiety/boredom, and a unfit driver at his
next turn at the wheel. And many don't have the confidence for winter driving, either
one or both. Plus some people can't fall asleep while vehicle is in motion. Given the
wide scope of personalities of today, I see it as a failure like years past only more so.
 

bam1968

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Years ago I had 3 trucks leased on hauling livestock. If a new driver didn't have livestock experience then they had to ride with me for a week to show them the ropes. For the most part it wasn't too bad but I recall a couple of times that the end of the week couldn't come fast enough!!! The owner of the company normally ran us pretty hard. Those training weeks the wheels only stopped to fuel, load and unload. I kept telling him that I was basically getting no sleep training those guys but it didn't seem to matter. That was back in the late '80's and early '90's when trucking was still fun.......
 

IceHole

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Team me and my dog, but sure wouldn't want to ride around with a stranger for a week or even a day, I suffer from Misophonia, and even my dog's excessive panting pisses me off sometimes but I love him and on road trips he is normally sleep with in a few hours. I have never liked riding with other people driving

Then there are guys like my buddy's employees, during COVID he made them drive separately to to the job and gave the one driving his personal vehicle extra money for gas. Both of them were none to happy because they didn't get to talk on the way to the job
I had no idea that was a thing. I had to wear earplugs at one place I worked.
A person would be loud... breathing, chewing, constantly doing some throat clearing grunt thing.
Drive me crazy.

Dog whinning is another.

Like feels like the sound jabs right in my brain and make me get very ******* mode quickly, even when I'm well aware and try to not.
 

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Couldn't pay me enough to team drive with the quality of drivers out there.
That's the common statement pitched back and forth, all pointing a finger at the other.
Everyone likes to think they are a better driver than everyone else, throw in all the
filthy habits and lifestyles and shake it up.
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Not to drag thread into lock down zone-but there is one area especially these days that can
put a damper on setting in cab hour after hour. Political affiliation and views, when it comes
to that drivers are best left to their own thoughts, listening to talk radio shows might be great
for one, misery for another and conflict will ensue.
 
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92U 3406

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That's the common statement pitched back and forth, all pointing a finger at the other.
Everyone likes to think they are a better driver than everyone else, throw in all the
filthy habits and lifestyles and shake it up.
*
Not to drag thread into lock down zone-but there is one area especially these days that can
put a damper on setting in cab hour after hour. Political affiliation and views, when it comes
to that drivers are best left to their own thoughts, listening to talk radio shows might be great
for one, misery for another and conflict will ensue.
I use quality as an encompassing term. Skill, cleanliness, attitude etc.
 

Truck Shop

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Pretty hard to fit skill, cleanliness, attitude & ambition into one human barrel, those would be
the important four. Employers have been looking for the perfect employee, and employees
looking for perfect employers--that model isn't available---but robots are a upcoming thing.
 

Truck Shop

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Old age drivers are finally being thinned out, insurance companies are flagging the risk
through possible sudden health concerns.
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Prune marmalade extract.
 

cuttin edge

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Mechanic at work had a heart attack. He drove on the highway in the late 80s early 90s. Hauled gravel, started pulling wrenches. Still drove some. After the heart attack, they too his truck license. Another guy had a mini stroke. Took his license had a hard time getting it back. I guess they are pushing to keep older guys off the road
 

Tones

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That's becoming a world wide thing. Here over 75s have to do a medical similar to aviators. In my case thats not a problem, all vitals are good, not on meds, but what sticks in my craw is people 30yrs younger who have worse health than me aren't tested.
Fast coming to think this is straight out elder abuse.
 

smifwal

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My dad was OTR before I was born and then went to work for ready mix company for the remainder of his life. He had a angioplasty and 89 93 and in 96 had a double bypass, had a CDL with every endorsement until the day he died
 

Truck Shop

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Laughable, I had that dissected artery behind my right ear. I asked the cardiologist if he
would stop my chauffeurs license. {What for he said? Anyone can have what you have or
a stroke or a heart attack at any moment, with the obesity issue going on heart disease
is everywhere. Your BP is fine, with time it will more than likely heal, your far less of a
threat than the two a day Whopper addict.}
 
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