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SANY long term owners/operators

DM&RDBulldog

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Looking for feedback from guys who have run the larger SANY machines into mid life or longer. Im in the market for a brand new 50 ton and my local SANY is willing to let an SY500 go with delivery to my site for 400k. That price blows away any other competitor ive shopped by 100k or more.

Ive had great experience with smaller SANY machines 8 ton and below but have not kept them past 2,500 hours. Thanks for any feedback.
 

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Pricing is expensive up north. Got a quote from my Cat salesman on a 335 with factory GPS - $380K. A 335 is a 75-80K machine not 100K however that price does include ready to go autos.

No experience with Sany.
 

DM&RDBulldog

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I did shop CAT and a model 352 brand new is up in the 550k price range. Closest ones available were AL, FL, and NC. Even used ones with over 1500 hours are listed above 480k.

Out of all the brands I shopped, Hyundai was the next best deal for an HX480 or HX520 around 470k new.
 

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I did shop CAT and a model 352 brand new is up in the 550k price range. Closest ones available were AL, FL, and NC. Even used ones with over 1500 hours are listed above 480k.

Out of all the brands I shopped, Hyundai was the next best deal for an HX480 or HX520 around 470k new.

If that 352 is at Thompson Tractor I've seen it on their yard.
 

DM&RDBulldog

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You got it, they had 3 or 4 listed when I looked last. All used with over 1,000 hours and listed for more money than I want to spend on a new one so ill pass on a CAT machine for now.
 

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Drove by today - there have 2 new 350's and a 395 on the yard. That 395 is a hoss - makes the 325 I have sitting a few machines over look like a mini-ex. :D
 

DM&RDBulldog

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Definitely don't need a 90 ton machine. The guy before me was working this quarry with a Koehring 1166 and 1266. Talk about two monsters. Im just looking to fill the position that my 35 ton has been working with a 50 ton machine and move my 35 ton to a more productive position.

My local SANY is going to be getting a 2023 SY500 back from rental and said we could talk around 230k for that one with 1200 hours. Very attractive pricing on the SANY machines.
 

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I'm most familiar with sany and the crane side. They are much cheaper to purchase, but the resale is absolutely horrible. No one wants the used one. A Grove or link belt may retain half to 3/4 of it's value after 5 years, a sany might only be 1/4 or less.

We got a dealer locally for Earth moving, there are two guys I know each rented one. Neither one of them were interested in purchasing the machine after renting one.

I might look at renting one for 2 months before you spend the money, because you are really going to take a resale hit if you aren't happy with it.
 

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I'm most familiar with sany and the crane side. They are much cheaper to purchase, but the resale is absolutely horrible. No one wants the used one. A Grove or link belt may retain half to 3/4 of it's value after 5 years, a sany might only be 1/4 or less.

We got a dealer locally for Earth moving, there are two guys I know each rented one. Neither one of them were interested in purchasing the machine after renting one.

I might look at renting one for 2 months before you spend the money, because you are really going to take a resale hit if you aren't happy with it.

Solid advice. Right now, that is the plan. Work out a purchase deal with a rent to own built in so I can log a few hundred hours on it as a test. I do see what you mean about holding value as the used 2023 they have with 1200 hours is almost half price of new.

On the crane side of SANY, how are they holding up 8,000hr and beyond? Hydraulics, undercarriage, and electronics all living about the same lifespan as the more established brands?
 

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Work out a purchase deal with a rent to own built in so I can log a few hundred hours on it as a test. I do see what you mean about holding value as the used 2023 they have with 1200 hours is almost half price of new.

In my experience buying, running and selling equipment if a certain piece of iron looses 1/2 it's resale value in 2 years and 1200 hours something ain't right. Even more so on a hoe this size.

$167 per operating hour loss in just depreciation..ouch. Ask them why the such a difference in new and used price.
 

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In my experience buying, running and selling equipment if a certain piece of iron looses 1/2 it's resale value in 2 years and 1200 hours something ain't right. Even more so on a hoe this size.

$167 per operating hour loss in just depreciation..ouch. Ask them why the such a difference in new and used price.

I do hear what you're saying. Resale isnt much of an issue as whatever brand 50 ton machine I end up with is going to be in the give away to farmer or private landowner price range if I ever sell.

The cheaper im into it the better. At minimum its going on 12 hour shifts 5-6 days a week for the next 6 years to make the most of my permit and land. Should have at least 15,000hrs by then going off normal downtime of my higher hour machines. If its a mechanical superstar, it'll have close to 20,000hrs.

As far as I can tell the brand just isnt popular because its Chinese and carries all the usual labels of cheap and junk. Tough sell to experienced guys that are brand loyal and also a tough sell to newer guys not wanting to buy something they think will let them down.

Ive been renting smaller SANY for probably the past 8 years and they have been fine machines for the 2500 or less hours I keep them for. Not as nice overall as my CASE stuff but for the price point I can live with what I may not prefer from the experience with the SANY brand so far. My guys also dont mind the ones we've rented either and theyll each get a 60 hour week on the SY500 to give me feedback before I purchase.
 

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The price on a 2 year old machine with less than half the hours it should have if working consistently should tell you all you need to know about the brand you're looking at.

Honest question, from someone that moves dirt for a living. If you plan on getting 15k hours out of a machine, I cannot understand why you would low-ball yourself like this. An extra $100k over 6 years and 15k hours is basically $6 per operating hour.

Go buy a low hour Cat and thank me in 6 years. That 352 will probably still be worth close to $100k, while the Sany will more than likely be in a scrapyard. Or, better yet, how about this? https://www.machinerytrader.com/lis...5/2023-komatsu-pc490-lc-11-crawler-excavators With 2700 hours, this machine will do everything you need, and has warranty for the next 6 months as well.
 
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You're going to need parts and service support if you want to put even 5000 hours on any brand of excavator. I really doubt Sany is going to have the parts when you need them or the service support if you need to have a technician come out to diagnose and repair. How many weeks will it take to get parts?
 

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Honest question, from someone that moves dirt for a living. If you plan on getting 15k hours out of a machine, I cannot understand why you would low-ball yourself like this. An extra $100k over 6 years and 15k hours is basically $6 per operating hour.

At the moment this is what's available to me locally enough. Let me know what you think of the position im in right now.

I already ironed out the deal for a brand new SANY SY500 with delivery to site for 400k flat. Same dealer has two SY500 models (1200hrs) that we can begin negotiation at 230k. Other options within a days travel are a Link Belt 490x4 with 500hrs listed at 450k and a Volvo EC550 with 100hrs listed at 575k.

Brand new CAT 352 locally isn't available for a month or more and dealer isnt willing to go below 550k not including tax or transportation. Used CAT machines with same ballpark hours as used SANY are a flight away and listed between 200k-250k more than the SANY.

Im also in a position where I have two backup machines in the event the SANY gamble doesnt work out and im stuck with prolonged downtime. The backup machines will be working on their own tasks but are not counted into the 6 year production plan so anything they do is extra and if they have to be pulled to fill a role im still on schedule without much worry.

As far as money saved, its looking to be 200k overall and 200k not tied up in a cheaper machine thats producing the same income as the more expensive machine can grow as an investment. 200k in my account will become roughly 320k in 6 years instead of possibly just getting 200k back and breaking even from the sale of the CAT when im done.

Please let me know what you think, would you make this move with your business?
 

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I’d do it. When Hyundai started selling cars in the US, they came with a 10 yr/100k miles warranty.
Problem was nothing but the drivetrain was left after 100k mikes. Body was rusted out, wipers didn’t work and the doors fell off.
Sany has been in this game awhile and they are going to be bigger than Case in a decade.
Same thing with Komatsu.
After you’ve done with this 1/2 price machine, you won’t care about resale value.
Gamble is, can it make the six with comparable down time and repair costs.
My gamble, which is worth nothing, is that it easily should do it.
 

DM&RDBulldog

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Gamble is, can it make the six with comparable down time and repair costs.

That right there is pretty much my original question, but it seems as of the responses yet other than "crane operator" no one has been around this brand long enough.

Im not going through with the purchase until next year but as soon as the rental SY500 comes back im going to iron out that purchase deal with rent to own for the next two months and get it working the rest of this year. Plenty of time to change my mind if something better comes along.
 
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