Thanks for posting the photos. Gets me a better picture of what I'm after. This Trail King trailer comes in a bit heavier than I thought at 23,961# as shipped from the manufacturer on 12/09/19 per the original manifest. This includes the rear "flip" also as they shipped together. I did think being all mechanical it would be lighter. Most of the Talbert's I've been around are a little over 22-23K in weight so not a lot of difference, but I don't think that would include any extra axles. Not an "apples to apples" comparison, but relatively close enough to derive from.
I'm thinking I'd like to have the trailer weight no more than 20K as the dozer weighs roughly 32K fully fueled, the truck just over 21,460 with one tank full. With a 20K trailer, I'm already over the 73,280 registration wanted to purchase. Basically I'd need a full 80K registration to carry anything additional to the dozer and possibly permits other than wide load when doing so for the skid steer as example.
Having those numbers and knowing what my truck, and dozer weigh, it's easy to see the truck needs to go on a diet. I don't need all that winch rigging any longer and the winch could be remounted much lighter. I figure I could probably lose almost a 3/4 ton by removal of additional steel hung onto that tractor and possibly more by the time the 5th wheel elevation is reduced, and tail roller height also reduced, or removed. As simple example, that tail roller is 3/8" wall and filled with concrete before being welded closed. The original roller was "collapsing" from the weight of my old trailer and the cable riding it. The 5th wheel pedestal is mounted to 4X4X.500" wall square tube and the riser ramps are cut from 5/8" plate. Back when that truck was put together I never really operated loaded on the roadways so weight wasn't a concern; durability was however.
I have a 74 50 ton 3 axle Loadking Easyfold with on board power unit
that needs a good home If any interest.
Haven't used it in 25 years.
Tom
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We should talk. PM me a number to call tomorrow. Just happen to have enough white oak to plank that trailer already.
Thanks,