All the credit should go to Bruce Wilson , some of these pictures were pass on to him , but most of the Hoe Chucking and Madill pictures were taken by him , and like anything else Bruce has done , its a class act . He has loaned us his slides which I am scanning , he has also loaned us a "Flash Drive" with hundreds of pictures . And "donkey doctor" you will love the Power Point pictures he put together when Munns Lumber wanted him to compare Hitachi or John Deere Hoe Chucker VS. Madill Hoe Chucker , Bruce's Madill 3800 was his baby and was treated as such , rub marks are normal wear and tear , Bruce prided himself on not abusing his machine . He could take a Hoe Chucker up a side hill as ugly as any body and bring it back in tack , he prefered afternoon shift as he was usually double shifting . The day shift usually creamed the easy parts of the setting , leaving the ugly area's for Bruce to deal with at night , he would still get good production . Bruce is not big in stature , but as an all around "Logger" he has big shoe's to fill .