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Born2clearcut

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1959 Renfrew area truck#212 with side #1 on lowbed on the move with alittle help from a cat
 

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Born2clearcut It is driving me nuts and we just gotta find out--When did unit #211 AKA 6-211 get the newer style Hayes cab She must have been rolled over or had a log dropped on her but she for sure has a early 60's HDX cab on her as opposed to the early cab as seen on 212 above and also 213. From unit #203 in 1954 they had the special built Clipper style cabs and somehow old 211 ended up with a later style cab. Other than that she is pretty original Just a shot here
 

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As you know HDX I have quite a few pictures of BCFP's older truck fleet , I'll have a look around for pic of 211 .I know for sure I have some pic's of the lower 200 BCFP truck series.
 

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Born2clearcut I have gone over her carefully and the cab on her appears to be early to mid 60's vintage I would guess if something happened to her it would have been in that time frame Other # on her were CSP 26(Contractor unit #) and her Fire Tanker # was 36-65 I will phone Calvin Oliver first chance and ask him. Al Skeene and Rob Norman and Bob Norcross came up with the original # of the old early HDX unit # 36-71 as # 213 That is down in Sarita. Island Pacific Logging owner and his son did a fantastic job of restoring her just for the Hayes 90th Anniversary Show here in Port Alberni on July 1st long weekend she sure looks good and it speaks volumes about how much people really care about the Log Truck history of the province The entire crew down at the IPL Chemainus Shop deserve a big round of applause for what they did in a very short time span We will go into this restoration further as this thread comes along
 

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I only found one picture of #211 April 1959 . The date I have on the picture is the date the picture was developed not necessarily when taken . I also had a quick look for #213 but no luck .
 

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Born2clearcut That is a fantastic picture of her She still has her original cab on her --same as #212 and the original Seattle Stakes have also been replaced with solid higher stakes. What is very interesting is the fact that she is under the boom of an "air tong" loader The loading tongs were air operated The old style tongs are on a strap in front just to unload the trailer from the truck and then the second loader flips the strap off the boom and they load with the air tongs.That is pure lost history.We had one over in Franklin River also and she was bone-yarded in the mid 60's Thanks for posting these fantastic pictures
 

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Back in the Fifties, my Dad evaluated the Berger-Rees air tongs as part of his thesis. I still have said thesis.
 

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Undergraduate at West Virginia U, Master's at Washington State U. I think he completed his Master's in 1954. Or thereabouts. He spent one year with Potlatch in Headquarters, ID, including the Spring log drive down the Clearwater. That was the Frenchman's last drive. Red McCollister took over the next year as Boss. Dad went with Weyco Twin Harbors after that, working for Ken Schaeffer. Retired from Weyco after 39 years. He was an honorable man, not like some of the characters we see today in that outfit. He would have never been a part of what they did to McMillan Bloedel.
 

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Truck #212 seems to be BCFP's main lowbed for that date and time, these pictures they're loading a big chunk on the lowbed with a Washington line loader ( no idea what the chunk was used for ). In picture 3 you can see a wooden bridge arch in the background. More of #212 and it loads to come soon
 

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That lowbed looks like the one that is up here, it has a 849RF under it now, but it says British Columbia Forest Products on it and looks really old. I must get pics of it.
 

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I also thought it said HAYES , but after zooming in and staring at it for awhile I noticed it was a R at the end , making it say HAYER . Picture 1 is orginal zoomed in , pic2 I outlined the letters and filled in ( not my best work :eek: ) . My eye's are not the best anymore ,maybe someone with better eyesight see's something differant ??
 

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Born2clearcut That is a Hayes 80 Ton Low Bed s/n 6021695 Was delivered not long after 211 and 212 s/n 5081621 5081622 to Renfrew Division If you go onto the Hayes thread go to post 167 and you will see the same name plate on the side of Rick Jones's 20-19 It did not come there from Hayes but was added by somebody I think that is why the name has been altered. Maybe a drivers name ???Hayes never put those on any other trucks other than those built between 1948-1951 That was the span of that model truck. In 1952 Hayes introduced the all new concept in their trucks called the "HD" and that replaced those series trucks What do you think???
 

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Born2clearcut; Great pics.:) They are inspiration for my modeling. I like those old HDX with the Clipper doors.
 

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BCFP unit #36-84 converted to a Fire/water truck.
 

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Hayesno1 Very nice pictures there! Jim Falconer and I spent a great deal of time on weekends trying to track down some of the trailers that came with these trucks as well as the original bunks (Seattle style) but could never find any trace of them. It was not till one day we were beating the bush's down at Messachie Lake and came across a couple of their big Tanker Trailers-- What BCFP had done was they took rail road tanks and put wheels under them and in the summer during fire season they would haul them out to different areas with the PreLoad trucks and set them up as mobile fire tankers in case of forest fires. That in itself was brilliant!!! Just out of interest we went over and looked at one of them because it still had a matching set on neat old Goodyear Cross Bar Tires on and that went WAY BACK . It was then that we figured out that we were looking at one of the original trailers!!!! I took my trusty jackknife and scratched away the paint and sure enough there was the serial number and it was one of them! Then we started really scoping them out and be darned if the original bunks off the trucks and trailers werent cut and welded together to make base's for the big tanks to sit on These were riveted bunks back then and there in you picture above it stands out very clearly! I think that BCFP was way ahead with their mechanical thinking than some of the others. They used everthing they had rather than just scrap it Wonder if any of those old tankers are still around Would be nice to see at least one saved Maybe I will make some calls and see what we can do!!!! This could go in a very good direction
 
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